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Posted: Sun May 01, 2005 9:19 am
by TheCatt
Wow, I missed that part.
Posted: Sun May 01, 2005 9:38 am
by unkbill
Cakedaddy wrote:If we're changing words, let's change cell phone to gun. You know, gun bans are born from a couple (alot?) of people messing it up for everyone else.
Thats right alot of idiots mess up with guns. But how do you equate guns and phones. No one is trying to come into your home and take your phone away forever. We are asking for a brief period of the day the thing is none workable.
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Posted: Sun May 01, 2005 11:03 am
by Cakedaddy
It's not a perfect analogy, but's it's the same principle. If no one screwed up with guns, there'd be no bans. Same with phones. Don't punish everyone, punish those that screw up.
Posted: Sun May 01, 2005 1:43 pm
by GORDON
Cakedaddy wrote:If we're changing words, let's change cell phone to gun. You know, gun bans are born from a couple (alot?) of people messing it up for everyone else.
I'm 100% behind you, up until the point people do marksmanship practice during a movie I paid to see.
Posted: Sun May 01, 2005 1:45 pm
by GORDON
Cakedaddy wrote:It's not a perfect analogy, but's it's the same principle. If no one screwed up with guns, there'd be no bans. Same with phones. Don't punish everyone, punish those that screw up.
Yeah, but 1: Theather owners can make any rule they want in the theaters they own.
2: Nobody is forced to go to the movies when on-call.
3: Theater owners can make any rule they want in the theater they own.
Posted: Sun May 01, 2005 2:10 pm
by Cakedaddy
What rule am I violating by carrying my phone on vibrate? Where am I trampling the rules/rights of the theater? When you see me get up to go outside and make a phone call, pretend I'm getting popcorn or something. Tell you what, I'll even come back with my pop refilled so you never know the difference.
Posted: Sun May 01, 2005 2:27 pm
by GORDON
Cakedaddy wrote:What rule am I violating by carrying my phone on vibrate? Where am I trampling the rules/rights of the theater? When you see me get up to go outside and make a phone call, pretend I'm getting popcorn or something. Tell you what, I'll even come back with my pop refilled so you never know the difference.
Well good, I no longer have to worry about Cakedaddy screwing up the movie, because he's promised to be courteous.
279,999,999 Americans to go.
Posted: Sun May 01, 2005 2:29 pm
by GORDON
thibodeaux wrote:Fuck this shit; not only do I want to use my cell phone in the theater, I want wi-fi, too, dammit.
BOUNCERS. My movie theater will have bouncers, like those 2 guys who worked for Benedict in Ocean's 11.
They will be well paid, and possibly have visible tatoos.
Posted: Sun May 01, 2005 4:01 pm
by Cakedaddy
GORDON wrote:Cakedaddy wrote:What rule am I violating by carrying my phone on vibrate? Where am I trampling the rules/rights of the theater? When you see me get up to go outside and make a phone call, pretend I'm getting popcorn or something. Tell you what, I'll even come back with my pop refilled so you never know the difference.
Well good, I no longer have to worry about Cakedaddy screwing up the movie, because he's promised to be courteous.
279,999,999 Americans to go.
I'm not promising. That's just how I am. I don't, haven't, and wasn't planning on it. So, don't punish me because others aren't the same as me. At any given time, I would bet that 60% of the people at the same movie you are at have cell phones, but MAYBE 1 of them is rude with it. Punish all the others? I dunno. Next you'll want everyone with more money than you to share it because screw everyone else.
Posted: Sun May 01, 2005 4:05 pm
by GORDON
Cakedaddy wrote:GORDON wrote:Cakedaddy wrote:What rule am I violating by carrying my phone on vibrate? Where am I trampling the rules/rights of the theater? When you see me get up to go outside and make a phone call, pretend I'm getting popcorn or something. Tell you what, I'll even come back with my pop refilled so you never know the difference.
Well good, I no longer have to worry about Cakedaddy screwing up the movie, because he's promised to be courteous.
279,999,999 Americans to go.
I'm not promising. That's just how I am. I don't, haven't, and wasn't planning on it. So, don't punish me because others aren't the same as me. At any given time, I would bet that 60% of the people at the same movie you are at have cell phones, but MAYBE 1 of them is rude with it. Punish all the others? I dunno. Next you'll want everyone with more money than you to share it because screw everyone else.
You're trying hard, but you're still avoiding the fact that it's private property and if the theater owner thinks jamming cell phones will increase theater revenue, then he's free to impliment cell phone jamming. You're perfectly free to vote with your dollars and take your business to the theater that embraces phone conversations during the movie.
If revenue increases, doesn't that prove the owner right? Only one way to find out, I reckon.
Posted: Sun May 01, 2005 4:39 pm
by GORDON
By the way, so far in this thread cell phones in movies have been compared to:
- Showering at home.
- Socialism.
Good stuff.
Posted: Sun May 01, 2005 4:40 pm
by Cakedaddy
I'm not saying a theater owner can't use jammers. And I WOULD vote with my dollars by boycotting that theater. And I think you're trying to hard with the theater that embraces phone conversations during the movie
No such theater exists. Well, that I know of. I would love for them to have ushers in the isles ready to grab anyone talking AT ALL and throw them out. But, don't keep me from getting calls that I feel are important and taking them outside. If you do, you're damn right I won't be giving you my dollars. You should know me and my principles by now. I don't buy gas at BP, I'll run out and walk before I do. And I don't buy EA games any more. Ya, they don't care. But, I feel better. So go ahead and open your nazi theater. I'll gladly pass it by and continue going to American theaters where they punish those that break the rules and welcome the rest without trampling on the constitution.
Posted: Sun May 01, 2005 4:54 pm
by GORDON
Ok, but first describe who is "trampling on the constitution," and how they are doing it.
And "embracing" is exactly what would happen with the competitors, to attract the peeps like you who can't possibly be away from the phone for the duration of a 2-hour movie.
Posted: Sun May 01, 2005 5:17 pm
by GORDON
Kind of funny aside: I'm currently writing a paper, and I JUST wrote, "And the last argument I’ll be looking at is, 'People don’t need to be on the phone all the time.' People don’t need to do a lot of things, and that statement highlights a basic misunderstanding of the concept of liberty."
But that still doesn't eliminate the theater owner's right do ban phones if he wants. 
Posted: Sun May 01, 2005 7:56 pm
by Cakedaddy
Welp, I think you are insane for wanting to take something away from people who don't abuse it. Because really, how is my cell phone hurting you? It's not. But, you still want to take it away. Can't really argue with that logic.
Posted: Sun May 01, 2005 8:24 pm
by GORDON
FYI: I am for theater owners jamming cell phones, if they so choose.
I am VERY MUCH AGAINST a government law stating theaters must jam cell phones.
Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 8:16 am
by unkbill
Cakedaddy wrote: I'll gladly pass it by and continue going to American theaters where they punish those that break the rules and welcome the rest without trampling on the constitution.
Name one theater that punishes you. I;ve never been in one.
They run the please turn off your cell phone and don't talk picture during the entro then the rude people do what they want anyhow because no one is there to stop them.
Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 8:21 am
by unkbill
Cakedaddy wrote:It's not a perfect analogy, but's it's the same principle. If no one screwed up with guns, there'd be no bans. Same with phones. Don't punish everyone, punish those that screw up.
Not true. Only one government that I know of that wants its people armed. All the other believe it is easier to manage a society that is unarmed. Least the people get mad with ideas about a better goverment than thiers.
Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 4:24 pm
by DoctorChaos
You farging ice holes! You've violated my farging civil rights, you cork suckers!
I'd recommend they jam cell phones in restaurants. It drives me up a wall when someone's phone rings with the volume on max and then they proceed to tell everyone in the restaurant the results of their colonoscopy, HIV test, deviant sexual exploits, etc.
Perhaps instead of jamming all cell phones, how about the ones with the idiot owners who haven't set the ringer to vibrate.
It's better for all of us. We don't have to listen to your annoying ring tone and you get a cheap thrill.
Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 5:55 pm
by Zetleft
DoctorChaos deported to Sweden, claims he's not from there.
I'd pay extra for a theatre that had cell phone jammers and bouncers for talkative jackasses. So I'm in, it aint my problem you are on call.