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Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 1:07 pm
by Steve Dave
GORDON wrote:No, I'm reading that I implied it would be a shame to water down Gary Oldman's performance, because he is a great actor. Then Star Wars Prequel Defender Man started an argument about it.
And I am asking Everything that is Popular Sucks Man "So What?" If the only issue anyone is going to have with the new movie is a water downed performance then we are all going to be very happy.
Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 1:08 pm
by 71-1085092892
Steve Dave wrote:I can come up with a list of things that need to be changed in everyone of the films except for New Hope. I didn't think we were talking about that.
I just don't see why average acting in the original triology isn't an issue for you but it is a unforgivable sin the new one. Why is a whiney Anakin worse then a Whiney Luke, neither are stand out acting preformances so why is it an issue. Other then the fact that you don't like the direction it the new ones went in.
You need to reread.
Can Lucas water down and get insipid results from Gary Oldman, too?
I didn't say
Can Lucas water down and get insipid results from Gary Oldman, too, unlike the original movies where the acting was awesome?
No, I don't think I did.
I also didn't say ...
aww hell with it. I'm tired of arguing over this stupid subject, your name calling notwhithstandng.
Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 1:10 pm
by 71-1085092892
Steve Dave wrote:GORDON wrote:No, I'm reading that I implied it would be a shame to water down Gary Oldman's performance, because he is a great actor. Then Star Wars Prequel Defender Man started an argument about it.
And I am asking Everything that is Popular Sucks Man "So What?" If the only issue anyone is going to have with the new movie is a water downed performance then we are all going to be very happy.
What the fuck are you talking about. Stop being stupid. Because I dislike the prequels doesn't mean "everything popular sucks." You aren't normally a moron, but you're being one today.
Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 1:10 pm
by 71-1085092892
Closed on account of stupidity
Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 1:30 pm
by 71-1085092892
I don't appreciate the name calling, but I'm reopening this thread in spite of how stupid it became.
He's defending against points I never made, but it really doesn't matter.
It was the name calling that pissed me off.
Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 1:56 pm
by Steve Dave
GORDON wrote:Stop being stupid. You aren't normally a moron, but you're being one today.
I don't appreciate the name calling
That makes two of us.
Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 2:11 pm
by Steve Dave
Can Lucas water down and get insipid results from Gary Oldman, too?
So what are you trying to say here? That the acting and writting in all the previous films was oscar worthy and now you are just worried?
Why is the acting an issue? It wasn't an issue for in the originals so why now?
There are any number of things to bitch about in the prequals and when you choose the acting your just looking for something to cry about because Lucas isn't doing things the way you want.
Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 2:28 pm
by TPRJones
Say, have I ever mentioned my theory about Ewoks?
Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2004 10:27 am
by Vince
Aside from Empire Strikes Back, they've all been pretty lame. But they are what they are, and what they do they do well.
Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2004 2:08 pm
by mbilderback
TPRJones wrote:Say, have I ever mentioned my theory about Ewoks?
Bad TPR! No doughnut!
Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2004 3:32 pm
by TPRJones
Hmmm, I guess I did, then. Only full knowledge of my twisted little theory could inspire such disdain. 
Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2004 4:33 pm
by Paul
Hey, I haven't heard the Ewok theory. What's your Ewok theory?
Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2004 4:37 pm
by 71-1085092892
I personally hold with the theory that Endor was wiped out soon after the events of Episode VI.
The Endor Holocaust.
Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2004 4:45 pm
by TPRJones
I quite like that one, GORDON.
Paul wrote:Hey, I haven't heard the Ewok theory. What's your Ewok theory?
Well, since you asked...
An Exercise in Xenophysiology
Resolved: The sexual organs of Ewoks are on the upper rear portion of their heads.
Evidence: Minimal and spurious, but somehow disturbingly compelling. Consider…
The first item of clothing invented by most human aboriginal cultures is the loincloth; specifically designed to cover the genitals. A few Ewoks wear thin bands of hide from which to hang tools, but the only clothing items worn by Ewoks that provides coverage are their hats. These hats are worn almost universally, the only exceptions being small Ewok children who tend to run around naked as is also common in human aboriginal tribes at the loincloth level of cultural attire. Although Ewoks are not human other parallels between their culture and human aboriginal cultures provide some minimal of feasibility to this evidence.
Further evidence is provided in the scene from Return of the Jedi in which Princess Leia removes her helmet arousing surprise and suspicion in the Ewok that witnesses this event. One would almost assume that the Ewok had never seen a hat before, yet clearly it is familiar with the concept as there is one perched firmly against it’s skull at the time. I contend that rather than being surprised it was instead terrified. Here was some alien creature – exceptionally tall and with most of it’s fur missing – and one of the first things it does is suddenly expose it’s genitals. The Ewok’s terror passes quickly as it realizes that this strange alien does not in fact have genitalia in the proper location, which is perhaps why the Ewok then proceeds to check the helmet thoroughly to see if perhaps they had fallen off.
Discuss.
PS: It does give interesting new meaning to the adolescent Ewok that Han Solo was rubbing rather intimately during C3PO’s storytelling, and thus explains just why that Ewok was enjoying this action so much. Why the adults present didn’t stop this activity I do not know … perhaps Ewoks practice rishathra?
Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2004 4:48 pm
by 71-1085092892
Hehehe ewww hehehe.
Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2004 4:55 pm
by Paul
My feeling on Star Wars.
When Star Wars came out, there was nothing like it. Space movies took place in the future, where eveything was clean. Star Was took place in the past, ships and buildings were dirty and broken.
The acting wasn't great, but the groundbreaking concept made for an incredible movie. Sci-fi fanboys drooled over the first three movies.
Lucas has children now. I feel that the last two films (Episodes 1 & 2), were written for his kids, rather than for the sci-fi fanboys.
Lucas is going to have an incredibly tough time appeasing people with this final film. Everyone already knows how the film must end, so the plot is really limited. People who saw the first three movies through the eyes of a child are seeing the new movies through the eyes of adults, so he's able to get away with less. Kids nowdays will laugh at people in rubber costumes, but adults nowdays see the CGI as flash over substance. Pretty much, no matter what he does he's going to be bashed.
Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2004 4:58 pm
by Paul
Great theory, TPRJones!
Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2004 5:00 pm
by TPRJones
I'm expecting a Star Wars Pokemon crossover, with a push to sells little plastic Yodas holding pokeballs.
However, why do you say the ending is locked? Considering what else he did in I & II, I can see him redoing the plot and not having it mesh up with IV, if he wants to.
Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2004 8:29 pm
by Malcolm
The acting may've sucked in IV - VI, but they had other strong, enjoyable things about them such that one could overlook the less than stellar acting from everyone except Alec Guinness & James Earl Jones.
I & II have not only had at least as bad if not infinitely worse acting than IV - VI, but they don't have nearly as many other redeeming qualities such that one can look past the exceptonally crappy performances of dizzamn near everyone except Ewan McGregor. Can you seriously picture Episode IV where Obi-Wan tells Luke, "There are these tiny, little critters that live in your body and if you listen really closely..." or could you picture Chewy going, "Mee-sah so sorry, Han."
Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 8:38 am
by Paul
Good points, Malcolm.
I mean, smurftastic points, Malcolm!