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Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 1:29 pm
by GORDON
Bumped for front page post.
Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 2:33 pm
by TPRJones
It also doesn't help that they dumped his body at sea. "Yeah we got him!! Oh you want to examine the body? Well, here's the thing..."
It is kind of an odd choice on their part. I can understand some of why they would do it that way, but they had to know it would make things more difficult.
I have some doubts myself. Oh, I'm sure he existed, and I'm just as sure that he's now dead. But I'd like to see some evidence of the story being told. As it is it seems entirely possible that he died of kidney failure in a cave and we were able to recover the corpse. Once we were able to determine there's no way anyone could prove that's how it happened we dumped his body at sea and made up a better story.
Not that I really think that's what happened, but considering how I - and many others - don't believe anything our government tells us without some sort of proof, it's not surprising such things are being said.
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 3:04 pm
by Leisher
Well, in their defense, there are a bunch of people who witnessed the assault last night.
Of course, if Osama was dead prior to last night, it's not like Al Qaeda can admit it since they would have been covering that up.
And granted that there might be a political boost for Obama, but it'll be forgotten LONG before the elections.
So I tend to take their word for it on this one.
Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 4:36 pm
by TPRJones
It doesn't necessarily have to be a conspiracy that Obama even knows about. The fewer that are in on it the better.
Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 6:11 pm
by Malcolm
Many of you don't remember it, but this country was nervous as hell.... we didn't think we could win in that desert.
Bah, I don't remember thinking that at all.
Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 6:36 pm
by GORDON
You don't have to remember it, sand in the equipment was a voiced concern.
Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 7:38 pm
by TPRJones
I remember it differently. I remember predictions that it would last at most a week, and probably much less. I remember because when we launched the offensive I plopped myself down on Arpanet (no internet as we know it now to speak of yet) and followed the advance like watching a text-based action flick, and there wasn't an air of "this could be long and bad" as much as "this should be a fun short thrill-ride".
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 7:51 pm
by GORDON
We must have been watching 2 different militaries.
Schwarzkopf's nightmare scenario was that Saddam had a nuke buried in the desert and it was going to be a bogged down disaster. I remember the interview. It would be a QUAGMIRE because US forces were untested and Saddam's were battle forged against Iran. Saddam was known to have chemical weapons and a history of using them freely, and I still think a chemical Scud may have been launched at Israel because initial reports were reporting people with chemical burns, and then.... no new news of that particular strike. Someone didn't want to piss of Israel for which, apparently, getting gassed is a bit of a tender spot.
And if traditional battle tactics had been observed, Saddam's blowing and igniting of the oil wells may have indeed bogged our advance, but we just zipped right around everything.
Anyway. Y'all are remembering wrong or I have an extremely detailed and self delusional imagination.
Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 9:11 pm
by Cakedaddy
I'm not sure why I wasn't first when there were no other posts regarding him getting hit when I posted. Even my follow up beat any other posts about it. So, I maintain my 'first' claim. It's the first time I've ever posted it (no pun intended) and I know it's legit and full of win.
The other thing that worried us about the GW in '91 was that other middle east nations would join Saddam. An "I'll fight my brother day after day, but if you hit him, I'm coming at you too" kind of mentality.
I heard he was dumped at sea to:
1. Honor the Muslim tradition of burial within 24 hours of death. Although they didn't honor the head facing north (or something like that) tradition.
2. They didn't want a burial sight that become a martyr memorial rallying spot thing, as stated above.
I also heard:
1. Pakistan was given no prior knowledge of the attack and were not involved, although they were claiming it was a bilateral operation. US is saying, no, it was all us baby. Implying we didn't trust Pakistan with the intel. Being that he was living on the Pakistan version of West Point, can't say that I'd trust them either.
2. One of the helicopters 'stalled' and was torched and left behind by our soldiers.
3. They tried to arrest him, he resisted and ended up dead.
4. Pakistan public is holding protest rallies because we basically entered their country, did what we did, and then left.
And my comment about Obama is dead is because as Giraldo was reporting he said:
"Obama is dead."
Chuckles under his breath and says to himself "What am I saying?"
Then in his normal reporter voice "Osama Bin Laden is dead."
I was crackin' up. In fact, HERE.
I'm also REALLY interested in Pakistan's explanation as this looks REAL bad for them. Fuckers.
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 9:12 pm
by TheCatt
I remember thinking we'd win, but that it would be a matter of weeks to months, prior to the invasion.
But I mean, that was 20 years ago.
Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 10:30 pm
by GORDON
Cakedaddy wrote:And my comment about Obama is dead is because as Giraldo was reporting he said:
"Obama is dead."
Chuckles under his breath and says to himself "What am I saying?"
Then in his normal reporter voice "Osama Bin Laden is dead."
I made that exact mistake when I wrote the front page post, and only caught it on the second proof read.
Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 7:55 am
by thibodeaux
Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 12:06 pm
by GORDON
This line is funny:
"10 yrs to find a big spending hi-profile outspoken terrorist with an entourage and dialysis machine is cause for calibration not celebration"
Feel free to use it as your facebook status. I've already commented about it enough, on mine.
Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 1:18 pm
by thibodeaux
Yeah, but: Bush!
Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 1:22 pm
by GORDON
I heard Obama killed him personally using only his cock.
And there was blood everywhere, and there was nothing Osama could do about it.
Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 5:25 pm
by thibodeaux
Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 5:56 pm
by TheCatt
Assuming that stuff is true... maybe Hillary should have be president.
Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 6:02 pm
by thibodeaux
She was the one ready for the 3AM call, because she'd been shot at in Yugoslavia.
Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 10:27 pm
by GORDON
This dick used the exact same comparison I did on the main page, except I did it a day earlier and I didn't get paid for it.
http://www.cnn.com/2011....?hpt=T2
Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 9:06 pm
by thibodeaux