Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 1:02 pm
Just supporting my "uniformity" idea.
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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 2:58 pm
Guess what theoretical-cops, life's unfair - SUCK IT UP.
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 3:19 pm
Guess what theoretical-cops, life's unfair - SUCK IT UP.
Right, life's unfair. Muslims can be forced to shave if they wanna be cops.
Woohoo, I suck because Catt gave my winning argument!
But still, there are some organization in which teamwork is essential. You just can't have people in that kind of organization who get to be special, because it kills espirit de corps.
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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 4:50 pm
Well, I'd say that if people are losing teamwork over being different, then just get rid of those people that are whiney little bitches.
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 4:58 pm
Right, the Muslims whining over their beards.Well, I'd say that if people are losing teamwork over being different, then just get rid of those people that are whiney little bitches.
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 5:17 pm
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 8:49 pm
Democrats: Is he outside the mainstream?
America: Dunno, but you are.
America: Dunno, but you are.
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 6:51 am
I like Gordon's arguments better. They make more sense. It might be because I was in the military as well and understand the value of removing one's 'self' from the equation. You are a part of a team. (which is also why I never understood that 'Army of One' thing they have going on). No beards has been a rule forever. Now it's changed? I think that points out the whining ones.
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:21 am
Well, I'm all corporate-like, and we value diversity. (We even have a diversity month, diversity training, a diversity executive council...)
So the idea of people being themselves, having uniqueness, etc is a pretty good one to me. I guess it's relative to the situation, which is why I'm guessing the military still doesn't allow any beards whatsoever, and most of corporate America does.
So the idea of people being themselves, having uniqueness, etc is a pretty good one to me. I guess it's relative to the situation, which is why I'm guessing the military still doesn't allow any beards whatsoever, and most of corporate America does.
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:35 am
I was going to point out that there are differences between 'corporate' and 'police/military' things. Corporate, be the happy tree hugging whatever-you-call-it. But, when it comes to the police/military, their job is rather special and has special needs.
I doubt you'd ever hear a marine say "Ya, I'm a marine, but I'm my own person too." They just don't think that way. (However, you WOULD hear them say "Ya, I'm about to fight 15 army guys, but I'm a marine and I'm gonna win 'cause I'm invincible!! Hoorah!!". And then he'd get his ass handed to him in a bad way. Which really has nothing to do with the discussion at hand. . . I'm just sharing.)
I doubt you'd ever hear a marine say "Ya, I'm a marine, but I'm my own person too." They just don't think that way. (However, you WOULD hear them say "Ya, I'm about to fight 15 army guys, but I'm a marine and I'm gonna win 'cause I'm invincible!! Hoorah!!". And then he'd get his ass handed to him in a bad way. Which really has nothing to do with the discussion at hand. . . I'm just sharing.)
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 9:13 am
We need some left-winger to come in an assault my corporate-diversity thingy.
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 9:43 am
I've never understood this argument. Not that I think that diversity is a bad thing, but it isn't required the way some people think.Well, I'm all corporate-like, and we value diversity. (We even have a diversity month, diversity training, a diversity executive council...)
Two examples would be Germany (WWII) and Japan. Not real big on diversity and Germany damn near took over Europe and Japan became economic powerhouse without it.
France is super big on diversity and tolerance, and they are pathetic.
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 9:55 am
I think forced diversity is as evil as forced segregation.
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 10:11 am
I think forced diversity is as evil as forced segregation.
I agree 100%.
You cannot force people to not be racist or prejudiced and programs designed to do that only create racism.
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 10:43 am
1) Germany lostI've never understood this argument. Not that I think that diversity is a bad thing, but it isn't required the way some people think.
Two examples would be Germany (WWII) and Japan. Not real big on diversity and Germany damn near took over Europe and Japan became economic powerhouse without it.
France is super big on diversity and tolerance, and they are pathetic.
2) Japan's economy has been shit for 15+ years.
3) France is to diversity as cleanliness is to French people.
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 10:44 am
Normally, I'd stand up for the first amendment, but anything that lessens the number of cops anywhere is something I'll promote.
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 2:10 pm
1) Germany lost to a whites-only army.1) Germany lostI've never understood this argument. Not that I think that diversity is a bad thing, but it isn't required the way some people think.
Two examples would be Germany (WWII) and Japan. Not real big on diversity and Germany damn near took over Europe and Japan became economic powerhouse without it.
France is super big on diversity and tolerance, and they are pathetic.
2) Japan's economy has been shit for 15+ years.
3) France is to diversity as cleanliness is to French people.
Women were getting into the factories at home, but then the same hing happened in Germany.
Jap Americans got thrown in jail, Jew Germans got thrown in the gas chamber.
Germany didn't have the black population America did, but they would have been put to work in the factories, too.
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 2:14 pm
Whoa. If we had black Union regiments in the Civil War, I'll say w\ relative certainty that we had blacks fighting the Nazis somewhere.
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 2:23 pm
I agree with Malcolm. Wasn't there a famous group of black pilots or bombers in WW2?
Or was that just Hollywood?
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Or was that just Hollywood?
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 2:29 pm
There was the Tuskegee Airmen, but I don't recall any Divisions of black troops in Europe. We would have had them shoved down our throats in February, by now.