Somali pirates take another oil tanker...

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Pirates vow revenge.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/africa/04/13/somalia.pirates.revenge/

I'd be one personal-firearm-smuggling-mofo.
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"The killing of our boys was aggression, and the U.S. will see what they get from their operation," he said.


Seriously, he's right. We're the assholes.

All they want to do is kidnap people, hold them against their will for an undetermined length of time, demand money for their safe release, and do the same with their ships and cargo. Sure, maybe sometimes a hostage gets killed, but that's business.

How dare we try to stop this completely legal enterprise?!? What right do we have to use violence to stop their violence!?

Seriously, one trained man with a high powered rifle ends these bullshit hijackings. He'd be able to tear them and their boats up before they even got into range to shoot back.




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RPG-7 reaches a bit over 900m.
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It's hard to aim an RPG from 900m out while riding in an inflatable life raft, in the ocean, and with a sniper picking you off one by one.
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Leisher wrote:It's hard to aim an RPG from 900m out while riding in an inflatable life raft, in the ocean, and with a sniper picking you off one by one.
Still sounds like better odds than fighting in one of the many guerrilla groups elsewhere.
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Given the area involved, and the number of merchant vessels, wouldn't it be easier to just blockade the Somalia coast until we either kill all the pirates or Somalia lets us go in and take them out?
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TPRJones wrote:Given the area involved, and the number of merchant vessels, wouldn't it be easier to just blockade the Somalia coast until we either kill all the pirates or Somalia lets us go in and take them out?
The problem w\ the second option is that we don't know who to ask. There's no stable gov't in that region which can claim to exercise authority for the entire country.

I'm all for going in & wasting them.
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I just thought of the simplest solution.... one squad of regular-ol'-ground-pounding Marines per American-flagged boat is more than overkill, but probably the smallest Marine unit you'd want to go with. That's 3 4-man fire teams, one to be alert on each shift, and the rest ready for action with 30 second's notice.

You'd probably have a waiting list of Marines wanting to go on 90-days Temporary Additional Duty of chilling and working out on an ocean freighter.
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GORDON wrote:I just thought of the simplest solution.... one squad of regular-ol'-ground-pounding Marines per American-flagged boat is more than overkill, but probably the smallest Marine unit you'd want to go with. That's 3 4-man fire teams, one to be alert on each shift, and the rest ready for action with 30 second's notice.

You'd probably have a waiting list of Marines wanting to go on 90-days Temporary Additional Duty of chilling and working out on an ocean freighter.
I had that thought as well, and then read your post.

Probably means it's already being considered, at least for the big boats.
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You'd probably have a waiting list of Marines wanting to go on 90-days Temporary Additional Duty of chilling and working out on an ocean freighter.


A bunch of men anxiously trying to volunteer to go be on a ship for 90 days with other men? You can take the Marines out of the Navy, but you can't take the Navy out of the Marines.

In other news, Somalis tried to capture an American ship this morning. They fired on it with assault rifles and RPGs. The ship was damaged, but escaped.
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Leisher wrote:
You'd probably have a waiting list of Marines wanting to go on 90-days Temporary Additional Duty of chilling and working out on an ocean freighter.
A bunch of men anxiously trying to volunteer to go be on a ship for 90 days with other men? You can take the Marines out of the Navy, but you can't take the Navy out of the Marines.
Trust me... compared to the typical life in a grunt unit, 3 months on a ship surrounded by only men would be heaven.

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You know, there is one way to stop pirates.

Ninjas.
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And Navy Seals are the closest thing to Ninja we got.
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Maybe they assumed they'd surrender.
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That piece of shit is the flagship of the French Navy?

What happened to their carrier?
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GORDON wrote:That piece of shit is the flagship of the French Navy?

What happened to their carrier?
Apparently replaced w\ a logistics ship. Yeah, wow. Wtf?
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I last personally saw their carrier in 1992. Maybe they decommissioned it.
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Dude, it's the media. They'll show a cop holding an AR-15 and call it an "AK-47 semi-automatic assault weapon." For all we know, that's a picture of a Swiss Coast Guard rescue cutter.
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