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Posted: **Thu Apr 04, 2013 1:43 pm**

One year I got 10 pops every Friday - using the rubber sole of a size 20 shoe as a paddle - for failing to meet the coach's athletic standards. The other coaches I've had just shoved kids around and sometimes punched a little while screaming at them. Nothing that would leave a mark, that would be unprofessional.

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Posted: **Thu Apr 04, 2013 1:59 pm**

I'm betting that was around the 70s when that shit still went on.

Posted: **Thu Apr 04, 2013 2:39 pm**

More allegations against Auburn and Florida's head coach.

Raise your hand if you're shocked. If your hand is in the air, you're a fucking idiot.

Posted: **Thu Apr 04, 2013 2:43 pm**

Malcolm wrote:I'm betting that was around the 70s when that shit still went on.

Early 80s mostly. But I just assumed things had always been and were still that way.

Posted: **Thu Apr 04, 2013 2:49 pm**

They started to crack down on hazing in high school/college sports a number of years back, but whenever your particular school's board decided to give a fuck generally varies from place to place.

Posted: **Fri Apr 05, 2013 11:23 am**

Was wondering what would happen to the AD.

Fired

Posted: **Fri Apr 05, 2013 2:37 pm**

The AD's resignation letter stated that he wanted to fire Rice, but was stopped by those higher than him. Expect more firings/resignations.

The assistant coach who blew the whistle and was fired for it has publicly said he is going to sue.

I wonder if this could lead to the Big Ten dropping Rutgers before they even join?

Posted: **Fri Apr 05, 2013 2:56 pm**

Headline: ... Athletic Director Is Fired After Basketball Scandal
Article: Pernetti tenured his resignation today

That's some good work, Lou.

Big Ten dropping Rutgers would be kinda awesome. But, your people need the cream puffs.

Posted: **Fri Apr 05, 2013 2:59 pm**

Oh snap

As you know, my first instincts when I saw the videotape of Coach Rice’s behavior was to fire him immediately. However, Rutgers decided to follow a process involving university lawyers, human resources professionals, and outside counsel. Following review of the independent investigative report, the consensus was that university policy would not justify dismissal. I have admitted my role in, and regret for, that decision, and wish that I had the opportunity to go back and override it for the sake of everyone involved.

Posted: **Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:11 pm**

Why don't they just make schools designed specifically to prep folks for careers in pro sports leagues? It'd remove the academic institution from suffering the idiocies of sport and vice-versa. And we can stop pretending like anyone gives a fuck what a top NCAA athlete's GPA is.

Posted: **Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:15 pm**

Cuz "There are over 400,000 NCAA student-athletes, and most of [them] will go pro in something other than sports."

Posted: **Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:15 pm**

Yeah, but at least you could extract the fanatical psychos.

Posted: **Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:26 pm**

Then how would I get to glory when UNC crushes people?

Cuz the Redskins have kinda sucked for the past 20 years.

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Posted: **Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:27 pm**

You got no faith in RG3?

Posted: **Fri Apr 05, 2013 4:11 pm**

Oh, I do, I'm just saying... it's been a rough 20 years for the Skins, while UNC has 3 men's basketball championships.

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2013 12:37 pm**

Tyrann Mathieu stopping counting after his 10th failed drug test at LSU.

It's just so odd that the NCAA can't find anything wrong going on at these "top tier" SEC schools...

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:33 pm**

It's just so odd that the NCAA can't find anything wrong going on at these "top tier" SEC schools...

They probably hire the same dudes that screen for drugs in the MLB.

Posted: **Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:33 pm**

I don't know how we missed talking about this, but they paid a marketing team to come up with:
College Football Playoff

Wow.

Posted: **Mon May 06, 2013 1:32 pm**

Is the NCAA doomed?

If O'Bannon's case wins, I think it does more to destroy college athletics than help athletes. In fact, I think it creates an environment where a lot of kids who would have gone to college don't ever get a chance.

In college sports, football pays the bills with basketball a close second. Very few of the other sports make enough money to pay the cost of having a team. If you remove a sizable chunk of that football money to pay athletes, other sports must be cut.

So long all you other kids who got scholarships for archery, tennis, soccer, track and field, etc. Oh, and say goodbye to the U.S.'s dominance in those sports at the Olympics and other such competitions.

In college football, there's something like 70 kids or so on game day rosters. Does having to pay them all mean reduced rosters to more closely match NFL rosters? Do junior colleges then pick up the slack and basically become the no pay or way underpaid farm system for the "farm system"?

And what kind of money are we really talking about? I'm sure some of the dreamers involved are thinking NFL money, but I'm thinking it'll be more along the lines of a couple of hundred bucks for each player based on their fame. Most players aren't going to get anything. A few, like Archie Griffin, will get more because they had more fame, have been featured in more games, etc. Or since it's a class action suit, they probably just split it into even sums with the lawyers taking the biggest chunk. (That's how these suits work, right?)

As for the future, can't the NCAA combat this movement, and the potential of bidding wars for talent (in which case the vast majority of players would get fucked) by simply instituting a salary cap? The best part, for the schools, is that they'll be able to include the cost of a 4 year degree as part of that salary. Not to mention food, travel expenses, equipment costs, etc.

And since we're now paying players, don't more recruits get cut for financial reasons? Now you've got guys who attended school for a year, didn't pan out, got cut, and what are they going to do with their life? I guess that's the tax payer's problem...

And if anyone brings up the "players can sign a contract guaranteeing them 4 years of school", why then can't the school put a provision in stating the player can't leave early? The players will argue it's their right, but honestly, once they become paid pros, they lose that right to leave their amateur status behind. They already did that when they enrolled into the college that's paying them.

Look, I despise the NCAA. I fucking hate it with the red hot intensity of a thousand suns. However, I don't think the people suing are doing so for the best interest of student-athletes like they claim. I think it's a move based on pure greed or need.

I don't see scientists suing schools over breakthroughs made while attending classes (although, I wouldn't be surprised...).

The world already looks the other way as players get paid LEGALLY. Amateurs aren't supposed to be making money from their gifts, yet college athletes get free rides, free room and board, free medical care, expensive gift bags at bowl games, etc. They're also getting free training in their sport of choice from great coaches. Tim Tebow made a lot of money in the NFL thanks to Urban Meyer. Should Florida send Tebow an invoice for the training?

Are these student athletes being exploited? Yes and no. Are there some who will be making multi-million dollar contracts as pros? Yes, but that's a very, very, very small percentage. The rest will never go pro, and they're getting great value in their free education, and experiences of a lifetime.

Can't the NCAA also simply stop using players' likenesses? So next year's EA cover has a painting of a made up player wearing the uniform of the previous year's champ, and the game is filled with made up players? (Each game would also feature the ability to customize rosters and player names...hint hint nudge nudge wink wink.)

And if we do go to a wild wild west where there's no salary cap, and the colleges can all bid on players, does the ivy league instantly become the AL East where championships are bought through funds from their uber rich and powerful graduates? Does OSU remain a factor thanks to the biggest fan base on the planet? Does Oregon change their logo to the Nike Swoosh? Does Alabama maintain power by becoming the Alabama Rolling Tide presented by AT&T? Does Miami name Shapiro as Booster of the Century?

Or is all of this moot since the NFL and NBA have age restrictions, and being the only game in town, the NCAA can set the bar?

I don't know the right answer because I don't agree 100% with either side. (Kids should be allowed to earn, but they are already getting paid a massive salary compared to their peers.)

Posted: **Mon May 06, 2013 2:26 pm**

Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany to file a declaration stating that if the O’Bannon case were to result in student-athletes getting paid, his conference’s schools would probably opt out and move down to Division III.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I'd like to see that bluff called.

Look, I despise the NCAA. I fucking hate it with the red hot intensity of a thousand suns. However, I don't think the people suing are doing so for the best interest of student-athletes like they claim. I think it's a move based on pure greed or need.

I'm pretty sure the schools and NCAA are in on the greed as well.

He brings up some shit about the MLB '70s free agency v. reserve clause thing, but this isn't pro sports so I'm not buying it. I'd call most Div I dudes semi-pro capable. Sometimes I can't tell the difference between Div III and championship intramural teams.