If you got 90% less gold in trammel, yeah...
*edit*
Bought my new first ship,
It's basically a rocket pod w/ wings.
It has a little mining, so I can still do that, but basically It is built for jumping in, unloading a payload and getting the heck out... just my style!
Edited By Troy on 1135046143
Eve Online
Could you get killed in Trammel? No. Can you get killed in EVE? Yes. There is no place in EVE space that you are 100% safe. Just like in UO town, you could be killed. The guards will jump that person, but, that person had the chance to kill you. Sometimes you escaped the guards in UO (Recall, gate, explosion and run), and sometimes you can escape the EVE guards (Concord). But for the most part, towns in UO were safe in the sense that your aggressor more than likely would have died by the guards. Same in EVE. There are sec ratings from 0.0 to 1.0. 1.0 = police, sentries, etc all over the place. Little chance of survival after commiting a crime. 0.0 no security and no penelties for illegal activities. So, in a 0.2 area, you could be attacked and killed and looted before the small amount of security forces could do anything about it.
And yes, in a 0.0 area, you can murder, kill, pod, loot, steal, etc all you want, and your security rating is not affected. I guess, if there are no laws, then there are no laws to break and no consequences or something. Do any of that in a 0.1 or higher, and your security rating is affected. If your sec rating drops below -5, you are red (just like UO) and are attacked and attackable by anyone anywhere. Security forces will attack on site. You raise your sec rating by fighting NPC pirates and doing other 'good' missions. No idea what the ratio is to get rid of -5 rating. And I don't know if your sec rating is lowered more for commiting crimes in a 0.5 area as apposed to a 0.1 area. I just know that 0.0 is free space and nothing counts.
As a corp, you can claim parts of space as your own. Make your own laws, etc. Attack anyone that enters, freely. Charge them for entry, whatever. As long as you have the force to back it up of course. So, that's one area of combat. If a corp owns a productive part of space (good ore, etc), other corps try to kick them out.
Things I don't like so far:
1. No fuel costs. You never have to worry about not making it home and stuff.
2. No collisions. I've flown through other people's ships, space stations and even planets. No damage.
And yes, in a 0.0 area, you can murder, kill, pod, loot, steal, etc all you want, and your security rating is not affected. I guess, if there are no laws, then there are no laws to break and no consequences or something. Do any of that in a 0.1 or higher, and your security rating is affected. If your sec rating drops below -5, you are red (just like UO) and are attacked and attackable by anyone anywhere. Security forces will attack on site. You raise your sec rating by fighting NPC pirates and doing other 'good' missions. No idea what the ratio is to get rid of -5 rating. And I don't know if your sec rating is lowered more for commiting crimes in a 0.5 area as apposed to a 0.1 area. I just know that 0.0 is free space and nothing counts.
As a corp, you can claim parts of space as your own. Make your own laws, etc. Attack anyone that enters, freely. Charge them for entry, whatever. As long as you have the force to back it up of course. So, that's one area of combat. If a corp owns a productive part of space (good ore, etc), other corps try to kick them out.
Things I don't like so far:
1. No fuel costs. You never have to worry about not making it home and stuff.
2. No collisions. I've flown through other people's ships, space stations and even planets. No damage.
As far as the lag thing. I haven't really noticed it yet. I have noticed some dropped frames when jumping into a populated area. But once the contents have loaded, I fly pretty smoothly. There were a couple dropped frames when shooting at an NPC drone once too. But, since combat is automated at the server level, there were a few rapid shots while my display caught up to the action. Same stuff happened in SWG as well. Most of the performance issues I've had were PC related. If I closed all other apps, ran in full screen, things ran better. If I reboot and only run EVE, it runs better as well.
I'm not saying there is no lag. . . I just haven't really noticed it, or didn't care when I saw it.
I'm not saying there is no lag. . . I just haven't really noticed it, or didn't care when I saw it.
Here is what I am doing currently.
I'm in a .6 secure region, doing my Ore runs between a good no-pirate Asteroid spot( for now) and a School of Applied Knowledge.
I'm using the school to buy basic combat and engineering skills I need to get to be good in combat, while making my runs out to find some dense, high quality ore.
I'm in a .6 secure region, doing my Ore runs between a good no-pirate Asteroid spot( for now) and a School of Applied Knowledge.
I'm using the school to buy basic combat and engineering skills I need to get to be good in combat, while making my runs out to find some dense, high quality ore.
Heh, well I was making about 10k every trip, about 10min a trip, until I started attacking the random pirate with my missles.
I can do 2 missles each salvo, 85-95 dmg/missle to a pirate, and I added a compressed rail gun to the mix.
8k bounty cash per pirate, + the often substantial loot they carrry....
My new favorite way to get money for skills. Anything I don't sell I smelt(UO terminology) into waaay more ore than I was getting before.
I have concluded that the only ore worth going after is the really valuable stuff.
I have some science skill, but have no idea how to use it. Have you found a good way to use it yet?
*edit*
when I say substantial, I mean that for about 1 minute of work, I can get items I can either sell, or smelt for 60-70k
Edited By Troy on 1135055879
I can do 2 missles each salvo, 85-95 dmg/missle to a pirate, and I added a compressed rail gun to the mix.
8k bounty cash per pirate, + the often substantial loot they carrry....
My new favorite way to get money for skills. Anything I don't sell I smelt(UO terminology) into waaay more ore than I was getting before.
I have concluded that the only ore worth going after is the really valuable stuff.
I have some science skill, but have no idea how to use it. Have you found a good way to use it yet?
*edit*
when I say substantial, I mean that for about 1 minute of work, I can get items I can either sell, or smelt for 60-70k
Edited By Troy on 1135055879
Science? No. Haven't even looked at it yet. And when you say you are smelting. . . smelting the ore you are mining, or smelting actual items?
Something I just learned though. I have ships scattered around the universe now. And that sucks because if you want to change ships, you have to go get them. What I learned is that when you buy a new ship, before you can use it, you have to 'assemble' it. Well, before you 'assemble it', transport it to your main 'base'. Or, the station you are using as your home. Then build it. That way, all your ships are in one place. Once you build it, you can only use it. Which means you are leaving what ever ship you had been flying behind at that remote locating.
Well, what do you know. There's a repackage option. Which I just used so I could take my shuttle back home with me. Too bad it takes up 500 m3, and my ship only has 150 m3! But anyway, you can transport your ships as cargo. . .
Edited By Cakedaddy on 1135056097
Something I just learned though. I have ships scattered around the universe now. And that sucks because if you want to change ships, you have to go get them. What I learned is that when you buy a new ship, before you can use it, you have to 'assemble' it. Well, before you 'assemble it', transport it to your main 'base'. Or, the station you are using as your home. Then build it. That way, all your ships are in one place. Once you build it, you can only use it. Which means you are leaving what ever ship you had been flying behind at that remote locating.
Well, what do you know. There's a repackage option. Which I just used so I could take my shuttle back home with me. Too bad it takes up 500 m3, and my ship only has 150 m3! But anyway, you can transport your ships as cargo. . .
Edited By Cakedaddy on 1135056097
Yeah, I got that weird repackage message too, didnt really understand it.... What race and stuff did you choose by the way?
I'm trying to figure out when I should head off to an area of lower security settings.
I can take care of the pirates pretty easily, but I bet they get harder as I go along.
*edit*
Just saw my first pk, they show up as little skulls in the lower right corners of their yellow, instead of green, boxes, it means they are wanted. I didnt stick around long enough to find out. Dude had a 455k bounty on his head.
Edited By Troy on 1135056732
I'm trying to figure out when I should head off to an area of lower security settings.
I can take care of the pirates pretty easily, but I bet they get harder as I go along.
*edit*
Just saw my first pk, they show up as little skulls in the lower right corners of their yellow, instead of green, boxes, it means they are wanted. I didnt stick around long enough to find out. Dude had a 455k bounty on his head.
Edited By Troy on 1135056732
Geez!
If you do a big mission for someone, like blowing up a pirate den... bring LOTS of ammo.
I had to destroy this building that took like 120 missles, and a full 3 or 4 mags of my compressor.
This is all after like killing off 12 lesser pirates and a few hard ones.
Money from the mission was nice, but the best part was the 400k Processor Loot.
Edited By Troy on 1135067105
If you do a big mission for someone, like blowing up a pirate den... bring LOTS of ammo.
I had to destroy this building that took like 120 missles, and a full 3 or 4 mags of my compressor.
This is all after like killing off 12 lesser pirates and a few hard ones.
Money from the mission was nice, but the best part was the 400k Processor Loot.
Edited By Troy on 1135067105
I'm working on one of those now. I'm ignoring the pirates and just hitting the den. With my rockets and rail gun, I'm getting him to about 40% before having to bail. I've finished missle training and I'm gonna try it again. Meanwhile, I'm training shield stuff. If I had a shield booster, I'd be fine, I think. I get 120k payout if I can hurry up. Other wise, I lose the bonus and it's down to 62k. Didn't even think of the loot stuff.
things I wish I had started with:
Engineering - Shields
Missle launcher Operation - Missle Launcher and Standard Missles (I had standard rockets)
Learning - Learning(to spead up skill learning)
Navagation - Afterburner
Things I want to do:
Increase my ship's armor and shields
Fly faster
Increase power capacity
I'll add to the list as things come up.
Edited By Cakedaddy on 1135076121
Engineering - Shields
Missle launcher Operation - Missle Launcher and Standard Missles (I had standard rockets)
Learning - Learning(to spead up skill learning)
Navagation - Afterburner
Things I want to do:
Increase my ship's armor and shields
Fly faster
Increase power capacity
I'll add to the list as things come up.
Edited By Cakedaddy on 1135076121
Lost my first ship. To a fucking lock up.
Had been working on a mission for about two hours. That includes buying/training skills so I can add needed weapons/armor to my ship. Made two runs on it. Both times, I got chaced out. Third time I was going in with some big guns and I knew I'd get them. Well, as soon as the shit hit the fan, my screen locked up. HARD. Hard drive was chuggin' along and the PC was trying to catch up or something. At one point, things came back for about a second and a half, then locked up again. Stayed that was for a long time. I waited it out. When I came back, the tutorial window was open letting me know I needed to get to saftey before I got podded. Mother fuckers. . . So, I had to pod my ass to the nearest station. From there, I paid 2 to 5 times more than I should have to re-equip. No way I could pod around the universe to buy at the lower prices. Pod was too fucking slow. So, I load up and head in. By this time, my shield training is complete and I was able to add that to my ship. Went back in. Shields helped me make quick work of the targets. As I'm flying back to communicate that I completed the mission, I get notified that the time for the 62k bonus expired. Fuuuuuck you. So, not only was it a really expensive mission due to the lock up and loss of my ship, but I got stiffed on the 62k bonus.
Then the server went down. So, who knows. Maybe all that shit will warp off and I'll have my old ship back. . .
But, on the bright side, that mission made me do alot of stuff that I should have been doing before taking the mission. Such as, learning the skills I listed above. The next thing I'm going to work on is getting more power for the ship. My shield booster ate it all up. Thought I was dead again cause I didn't think my warp engines would kick in for my escape. But, they did. So, I need more power. . .
Had been working on a mission for about two hours. That includes buying/training skills so I can add needed weapons/armor to my ship. Made two runs on it. Both times, I got chaced out. Third time I was going in with some big guns and I knew I'd get them. Well, as soon as the shit hit the fan, my screen locked up. HARD. Hard drive was chuggin' along and the PC was trying to catch up or something. At one point, things came back for about a second and a half, then locked up again. Stayed that was for a long time. I waited it out. When I came back, the tutorial window was open letting me know I needed to get to saftey before I got podded. Mother fuckers. . . So, I had to pod my ass to the nearest station. From there, I paid 2 to 5 times more than I should have to re-equip. No way I could pod around the universe to buy at the lower prices. Pod was too fucking slow. So, I load up and head in. By this time, my shield training is complete and I was able to add that to my ship. Went back in. Shields helped me make quick work of the targets. As I'm flying back to communicate that I completed the mission, I get notified that the time for the 62k bonus expired. Fuuuuuck you. So, not only was it a really expensive mission due to the lock up and loss of my ship, but I got stiffed on the 62k bonus.
Then the server went down. So, who knows. Maybe all that shit will warp off and I'll have my old ship back. . .
But, on the bright side, that mission made me do alot of stuff that I should have been doing before taking the mission. Such as, learning the skills I listed above. The next thing I'm going to work on is getting more power for the ship. My shield booster ate it all up. Thought I was dead again cause I didn't think my warp engines would kick in for my escape. But, they did. So, I need more power. . .