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GORDON wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2024 4:10 pm Why are men the ones who are required to show restraint? Why is the woman at the same time empowered to make all the choices, except to keep her legs shut because of consequences she may not want?

Her consequences are built-in. Carrying a baby aint easy or risk-free.

GORDON wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2024 4:10 pm Why are men the ones who are required to show restraint? Why is the woman at the same time empowered to make all the choices, except to keep her legs shut because of consequences she may not want?

Exactly. The argument isn't "Men are too dumb to do anything else but stick it in", the argument is why is the man the only one being held responsible.

TheCatt wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2024 4:16 pm

GORDON wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2024 4:10 pm Why are men the ones who are required to show restraint? Why is the woman at the same time empowered to make all the choices, except to keep her legs shut because of consequences she may not want?

Her consequences are built-in. Carrying a baby aint easy or risk-free.

Then you'd think she'd be more cautious!

Leisher wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2024 4:16 pm Then you'd think she'd be more cautious!

You'd think everyone involved would be.

TheCatt wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2024 4:50 pm

Leisher wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2024 4:16 pm Then you'd think she'd be more cautious!

You'd think everyone involved would be.

It really does depend on how hot they are and how much alcohol is involved.

Pro-abortion propaganda on CNN.

Again, I'm for abortion rights, but this piece is utter trash.

Abortion gets banned and in the super long 1 1/2 year study it was found that hundreds of babies died more than normal. Wait, so babies who weren't killed in the womb were then born and died? Ok, that sucks. And how many babies would have been aborted, but now are thriving?

Point being, anyone with an ounce of critical thinking is going to shred this and turn the point around on you. You're making the argument for your opponents.