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People lie on polls, there is no accurate data.

Wasn't a poll.

Leisher wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:50 pm The study I posted proves that point.

How can you do a study on what people do when no one is watching? That's like the opposite of a study.

GORDON wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 9:03 am

Leisher wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:50 pm The study I posted proves that point.

How can you do a study on what people do when no one is watching? That's like the opposite of a study.

Someone was watching. The participants didn't know someone was watching.

I was talking to a city water worker socially, recently. He was talking about how people KNOW not to flush tampons and condoms down the toilets. The city tells them, annually, with fliers and shit. It causes problems in the system. But they do anyway.

Because no one is watching.

Again, this is just quibbling over the price of a whore.... but it's an established fact they're whores.

Most people suck.

I used to be very against red-light cameras. Vocally.

And then Ohio made them unconstitutional, and they disappeared. And then people in Toledo stopped paying attention to red lights (join toledo police scanner FB page.... 20 red light runner, rollover accidents a day, and everyone agrees the streets are lawless).

People know there are no more cameras, watching.

They know Toledo police aren't watching traffic any more.... at best, only 10% as much as they did 20 years ago.

They know no one who can punish them are watching. They're rolling 1:25 odds they won't crash/kill someone over saving 20 seconds of their commute.

People are absolute scum, and their price is low. 90% of people wouldn't need anywhere near a million dollars to push the button.

I still don't like red light cameras, but I 100% support cameras all over the place.

But I do hate seeing jackasses do jackassery things without punishment. So I can definitely understand Gordon's position.

"Hmmm. No one saw MY dog just take a dump on the hiking trail. Ha ha fuck everyone else."

GORDON wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 12:16 pm "Hmmm. No one saw MY dog just take a dump on the hiking trail. Ha ha fuck everyone else."

Death penalty.

TheCatt wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 12:07 pm So I can definitely understand Gordon's position.

I understand his position too. I hate people. That is unchanged. It's weird that I'm on the side defending them, but it is what it is. I always assume the worst of people, but I can explain that away via nurture. I've been exposed to the worst of man from the start.

I'm not even saying he's wrong, I'm just saying I believe differently and the only study we can find backs up my belief more than his.

TheCatt wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 12:07 pm I 100% support cameras all over the place.

Strong disagree mainly because they would be the government's cameras. That does not lead to good things in any way, shape, or form.

And if they were personal cameras, well, I'm not digging the "watch and film from a distance as someone gets murdered" populace we've cultivated.

TheCatt wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 12:28 pm

GORDON wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 12:16 pm "Hmmm. No one saw MY dog just take a dump on the hiking trail. Ha ha fuck everyone else."

Death penalty.

Strong agree. Although, there are a LOT of dogs and running into random piles isn't too common, which implies the majority are cleaning up after their dogs, and are thus, "good".

Leisher wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 1:48 pm Strong disagree mainly because they would be the government's cameras. That does not lead to good things in any way, shape, or form.

Since government is LE, it does/should.

Leading Edge?

Leisher wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 5:16 pmLeading Edge?

As if.

Law enforcement.

TheCatt wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 2:25 pm

Leisher wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 1:48 pm Strong disagree mainly because they would be the government's cameras. That does not lead to good things in any way, shape, or form.

Since government is LE, it does/should.

My main problem is that all the cameras would be Chinese (because they are by far the cheapest) and they'd be using them too.

Airlines now required to auto-refund you if a flight is cancelled, or significantly delayed.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/28/business ... index.html

This is actually pro-consumer.... I'm a little shocked.

GORDON wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2024 8:00 pm This is actually pro-consumer.... I'm a little shocked.

Yeah, it's what Democrats do sometimes.

Like this: https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/pr ... -recurring

Which won't get finalized if Trump wins.

MAN am I getting tired of all the political spam. So looking forward to election season being over.

Judge rejects Boeing's plea deal agreement.

He then calls out the government for their incompetence in holding Boeing accountable.

“It is fair to say the government’s attempt to ensure compliance has failed,” O’Connor wrote in his opinion. “At this point, the public interest requires the court to step in. Marginalizing the court in the selection and monitoring of the independent monitor as the plea agreement does undermines public confidence in Boeing’s probation.”

Good.

Government workers were unavailable for comment as they were all working from home.

GORDON wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2024 8:47 pm MAN am I getting tired of all the political spam. So looking forward to election season being over.

BTW it all ended and is nice.