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Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:43 pm
by Leisher
Yeah, saw all that. Good for him and his sex life I guess? (I think it's funny that him taking a dick pic in the White House is somehow a big deal like other people wouldn't do it. Hell, I know a guy who stuck cigars in a girl's pussy in the White House...) It has absolutely no relevance to the Meyer investigation though. As people elsewhere are saying about Brett McMurphy, this is him trying desperately to substantiate a story he never should have gone public with until he actually knew what he was reporting.

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Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2018 2:21 pm
by TheCatt
Leisher wrote: I think it's funny that him taking a dick pic in the White House is somehow a big deal like other people wouldn't do it
Never would have occurred to me.

Well, the question is: Why sex toys sent to work? The obvious answer is: Having affairs. Which could lead to some kind of "Did OSU know he was fucking that woman?" etc or something.

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Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 1:46 am
by Leisher
TheCatt wrote: Never would have occurred to me.
Not as a guest. Never. However, you can find evidence of people getting boned in famous places everywhere. There's a mile high club for a reason.
TheCatt wrote: Well, the question is: Why sex toys sent to work? The obvious answer is: Having affairs. Which could lead to some kind of "Did OSU know he was fucking that woman?" etc or something.
Clearly you send things to work to hide them from your family. I'm actually stunned at how many people are apparently using sex toys in affairs. Do people need toys to cheat? Wouldn't the excitement come from the new body, not some plastic to use? Confusing.

Anyway, whether OSU knew he was having an affair or not means nothing. Again, this isn't a legal or NCAA investigation. This is purely internal. OSU's own policies and maybe Title IX, which I don't think applies anymore as she wasn't a student(?), are the only thing that matter and they have to do with safety, not who's screwing who.

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Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 8:22 am
by TheCatt
Leisher wrote: Do people need toys to cheat?
Maybe it's just something they've always wanted to do, and their partner is vanilla?

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Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 12:01 pm
by Leisher
TheCatt wrote:
Leisher wrote: Do people need toys to cheat?
Maybe it's just something they've always wanted to do, and their partner is vanilla?
I guess? I don't know.

I think if you're out there cheating, there's clearly something wrong in your relationship. If you're out there using toys with brand new people, I think something's wrong with you.

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Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 8:36 pm
by Cakedaddy
Leisher wrote: I think if you're out there cheating, there's clearly something wrong in your relationship.
I dunno. I maybe there's just something wrong with the cheater. Maybe the relationship is solid and fulfilling, but the cheater is just broken. Some people just want to watch the world burn.

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Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 8:37 pm
by Cakedaddy
Cakedaddy wrote:
Leisher wrote: I think if you're out there cheating, there's clearly something wrong in your relationship.
I dunno. I maybe there's just something wrong with the cheater. Maybe the relationship is solid and fulfilling, but the cheater is just broken. Some people just want to watch the world burn.

But back to the OSU thing. So, there aren't any NCAA rules being broken? I figured the NCAA had something that said coaches can't beat their wives or something. So if no NCAA rules are being broken, why is Urban suspended and 'in danger of losing his job'?

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Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 9:45 pm
by TheCatt
Saban over-rated as a coach, he's just a really good recruiter. And a cheat.
"If you count cheating and getting the best players in the country as part of running a program, he's the best in the country," the coach added. "It's like saying an NFL coach is the best coach in the league if he gets 25 first-round picks every year."
Pretty sure it is in the college realm.
The discussion on Saban came in a poll of the most overrated and underrated coaches in the country, with Penn State's James Franklin and Florida State's Willie Taggart tying as the most overrated with each getting 20 percent of the votes.

While Saban only received one vote for overrated, even that seems high for a coach who has a 132-20 record in 12 seasons at Alabama with five national titles in the last nine years.
I find it a little curious that the two most prominent NCAA black head coaches are tied at 20% of the votes.

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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 9:44 am
by Leisher
Cakedaddy wrote:
Cakedaddy wrote:
Leisher wrote: I think if you're out there cheating, there's clearly something wrong in your relationship.
I dunno. I maybe there's just something wrong with the cheater. Maybe the relationship is solid and fulfilling, but the cheater is just broken. Some people just want to watch the world burn.

But back to the OSU thing. So, there aren't any NCAA rules being broken? I figured the NCAA had something that said coaches can't beat their wives or something. So if no NCAA rules are being broken, why is Urban suspended and 'in danger of losing his job'?
Absolutely none. People (anti-OSU folks) tried to make it a title IX violation early on, but that all got thrown out quickly because this doesn't involve students.

This is strictly an internal OSU investigation. Urban was suspended because OSU saw what happened at PSU and MSU and they wanted to avoid the same bad look.

If Urban ends up losing his job, it will be about political correctness and public relations. It will not be about justice or doing what's right. Even the biggest OSU haters in the MSM have quelled their calls for Urban's job since even Courtney Smith's own mother has spoken out publicly against her and her claims.

If Meyer gets fired, while Dantonio stays employed...
TheCatt wrote: Saban over-rated as a coach, he's just a really good recruiter. And a cheat.
He's not wrong... Even with those recruits he still needs a lot of political help to get into the title game every year.
TheCatt wrote: I find it a little curious that the two most prominent NCAA black head coaches are tied at 20% of the votes.
Is James Franklin black? Really? Did I just do a racism?

I buy Taggart being overrated. I think that criticism of Franklin is bullshit.

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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 10:35 am
by TheCatt
Leisher wrote: Is James Franklin black? Really? Did I just do a racism?
The safe assumption is that you are always doing a racism.
Leisher wrote: I buy Taggart being overrated. I think that criticism of Franklin is bullshit.
I was surprised PSU took Franklin, but he did take Vandy to 2 consecutive bowl games. He's youngish for a coach, so time to see if he can keep PSU competing.

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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 11:01 am
by Leisher
TheCatt wrote: The safe assumption is that you are always doing a racism.
Sadly, that's not even a joke these days.
TheCatt wrote: I was surprised PSU took Franklin, but he did take Vandy to 2 consecutive bowl games. He's youngish for a coach, so time to see if he can keep PSU competing.
I think he's a really good coach. The thing about his hire that shocked me was the "I won't hire anyone with an ugly wife" statement. Amazing that didn't get him fired.

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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 11:39 am
by TheCatt
Leisher wrote: The thing about his hire that shocked me was the "I won't hire anyone with an ugly wife" statement.
Hah! That was him? I already forgot.

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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 3:08 pm
by Leisher
Prelim meeting being held Tuesday that may tip a direction. Board meeting being held Wednesday.

Apparently, the investigation ended yesterday.

So I guess by Wednesday afternoon we'll know if Urban stays or goes.

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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 3:42 pm
by Leisher
11 Warriors is reporting the recommendation will be a suspension and possibly label it as "time served" based upon his suspension since August 1st.

That would make sense and fit Meyer's own criteria. He suspended...was it Zeke?...for a game despite video evidence proving the player was innocent of hitting a girl at a club. Why? "Because he put himself in a bad position."

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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 6:32 pm
by TheCatt
I bet OSU is kinda glad this Maryland shit happened.

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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 6:33 pm
by Leisher
I mean, MSU had hundreds of women molested and about a dozen football players raping more women, so...they didn't need the Maryland situation to happen...

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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 1:56 pm
by Cakedaddy
As soon as I knew no real rules were broken, I knew he wouldn't be fired.

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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 2:14 pm
by Leisher
The word today is that the board is going to recommend a suspension. However, Meyer is pushing back for "time served".

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Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 12:46 pm
by TheCatt

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Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 8:52 pm
by TheCatt