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TheCatt wrote: ↑Mon Jun 20, 2022 2:32 pm

Leisher wrote: ↑Mon Jun 20, 2022 2:28 pm What do they mean by "fake clinics"? Are there fake abortion clinics out there or just fake websites that steer unsuspecting folks away?

Man, there are hundreds if not thousands. They are real physical places.
Here's one near us.

That's pretty creepy.

How would Google know which is which?

Rite Aid and CVS limit Plan B pill sales.

So tell them to pull out.

I think abortion should be legal, but if this is true...death penalty. Society doesn't need the kind of humans that would do something like this.

Sounds cheaper than a boob job

Trump appointee judge in Texas could ban abortion medication nationwide.

What are we doing here? A judge with no formal education or experience in chemistry or science has the ability to decide a 20 year old FDA approval is no good for Americans?

IF he does ban it, I look forward to seeing the word vomit he uses to justify it without invoking religion. Also, where is Congress? Shouldn't they be setting up rules for a proper path to overturning FDA approvals, and that path not involving no nothing judges?

People in Texas should riot. If they manage to get into the courthouse and sit in the judge's chair, then they become the judge and can change the system from the inside.

*snicker*

Leisher wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 11:40 am Trump appointee judge in Texas could ban abortion medication nationwide.

So he did, and here is the ruling, which is a pretty interesting read. Apparently the root of this case is about a significant number of women suffering bad side effects from the chemical abortion and not being warned about them. Additionally, the FDA dragging their feet on addressing this suit which should have been in court 14 years ago...

However, the MSM is simply pitching it as a conservative judge attacking women's abortion rights.

The MSM is a cancer.

And I say that as someone who is pro-choice. In fact, one wonders if this would have the same impact if it had happen prior to Roe v Wade being overturned?

Ann Coulter, remember her? She said something smart.

Agreed, and let's only ban guns for the anti-gun folks.

Ban free speech for the ones saying you better use the correct pronouns, or else.

Texas refusing to allow woman to abort dead baby.

Ohio woman facing charges for having a miscarriage.

Both of those headlines are blatant lies. Go ahead and click the links and see. However, they are the exact ways both cases are being discussed by the pro-choice folks.

Just to get this out of the way, I am firmly in support of both women in these cases. I fully understand Texas' argument (it's a life and yada yada yada), but still disagree with them. This isn't the end of The Mist where after mercy killing everyone in the car the mist clears up and everything is fine showing he shouldn't have killed everyone. The baby has already been condemned by nature. And while I get the "where does the line get drawn" argument, can we agree babies that aren't viable are nowhere near that line? Ohio's argument...they can go fuck themselves. This woman didn't act in a malicious nature.

As a society, we need to stop taking everything to the extremes. We need to stop highlighting the exceptions. We need to stop lying about our opponents and their intentions. If we continue to act in this manner, there will never be compromise, just division. But maybe that's the plan?

Do people think things through before making their signs and arguments?

Leisher wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:21 pm Do people think things through before making their signs and arguments?

I mean I can stop you are "Do people think things through" Sometimes even "Do people think" or "do people"

To be fair to the dude, I just noticed that it's a Kamala Harris quote. I suppose he could be mocking it?

How does the VP make a statement like that? Does she not know the laws? Wasn't she a lawyer?

Well, Kav said he couldn't think of any.

TheCatt wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 3:56 pm Well, Kav said he couldn't think of any.

Our government is run by morons.

Serious question:

Why is it that people who are so completely unwavering on their views about abortion so fucking stupid and uncompromising? Why are their positions so ridiculously extreme that it makes them completely illogical and easily debated with anyone except them...again because they're so stupid?

The Right:
"Abortion is NEVER ok, even in cases of incest, rape, or to save the mother's life."

We get it, you want your daughter to have your baby. However, perhaps man developing the means of saving a mother's life by aborting her unborn child IS God's (or Mother Nature's) will? Perhaps God gave us the ability to develop such things so that a rape victim doesn't have to spend the rest of her life staring into the face of her rapist? Why would God give us the brains to develop such a thing if not for those reasons? After all, miscarrying a baby isn't just something that happens, it's the result of a whole shitload of pregnancies (10-20% and that's only because we don't know about all the ones that happen before the woman even knows she's pregnant), and isn't a miscarriage just a natural abortion?

Instead of this stupid stance, just take the stance of "Abortion should not be birth control". You'd get a lot more people on your side.

The Left:
"It's just a clump of cells and not a person until it's born."

Well then, for starters, if someone kills a pregnant mom why are you hitting them with 2 murder charges? You can't have it both ways.

A fetus can survive outside the womb at 22 weeks and has a really good chance starting at 28 weeks. If a cake can be safely decorated and consumed at 40 minutes instead of the 50 it says on the box, is it not still a cake?

Babies can have memories of smells and tastes within the womb. Does that sound like a clump of cells?

Isn't the truth that you know it's more than likely morally and ethically wrong, but facing the truth isn't something your fragile mental health can take, and thus, you repeat the "clump of cells" lie over and over until you actually believe it?

Instead of this stupid stance, just take the stance of "Listen, mistakes happen and the world is already overpopulated. Truthfully, the majority of people getting abortions are teenagers or dumb (I know that's redundant), neither of which should be having kids. So give us this one, and we'll sacrifice all the women on The View." Even the most ardent defender of abortion would pause to consider that deal.

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My 14 year old middle twin was discussing politics with me last night. Usually, I let them talk and then ask them questions challenging their positions. She made the statement, "Where I think we went wrong in this country is we lost the ability to discuss issues. Now everyone is too stubborn to compromise and they always have to be right."

From the mouths of babes...

Abortion is probably Exhibit A for that very thing because as I've said before, NOBODY actually knows or can prove the truth. Thus, it's just opinion versus scripture. Seems to me that when there are no actual facts to prove who is right and who is wrong, it's the best time to compromise where facts can be found.