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I want to know what the "typical American home" is.
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Leisher wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 6:56 pm The economy is perfect. Let's get into more wars! If the people struggle, they can just eat cake.
It is interesting... there was an op-ed in the WSJ the other day basically saying that the economy is amazing, fantastic, etc. But everyone just whines + bitches about it. Not really the WSJ's thing to put that out there with a Dem president. But the top lines numbers are great. But, what, 70% of the people say it sucks? Cuz it's all rigged for the rich.
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Cakedaddy wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 7:56 pm I want to know what the "typical American home" is.
Based on the latest data available from Zillow, as of September 30, the average U.S. home value stands at $348,539, reflecting a 1.1 percent increase over the past year. In January, this figure was $340,332.
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TheCatt wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:56 pm
Leisher wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 6:56 pm The economy is perfect. Let's get into more wars! If the people struggle, they can just eat cake.
It is interesting... there was an op-ed in the WSJ the other day basically saying that the economy is amazing, fantastic, etc. But everyone just whines + bitches about it. Not really the WSJ's thing to put that out there with a Dem president. But the top lines numbers are great. But, what, 70% of the people say it sucks? Cuz it's all rigged for the rich.
Exactly, the majority of Americans are struggling, being heard, but not being believed.

The "serve Wall St" model is unsustainable. Too few people eat at that table.
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Thing is, for people who spend, for example, 40% of their income on their basic needs (housing, food, energy, car), a 20% jump in prices means their now paying 48% of their income on basic needs. Barely a glitch. They're not going to put off replacing this year's Mercedes to the new model.

For someone spending 90% of their income to get by, basically paycheck to paycheck, a 20% jump in prices means they now have to give something up in order to keep scraping by.

I forget where I last saw the article, but most people in the USA are just scraping by, and this "great economy" is really hurting, and being told "oh inflation is only 3% this year!" is pissing them off as they stop buying soda they can't afford and give up their dream of ever owning a home.
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Uh...
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We should cut the IRS' budget so things like this can't happen.

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Shouldn't you be out burning a cross in some Republican's yard?

Also, to be fair, that number seems really small and it'd be helpful if how much was spent getting it was also shown.
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How much was spent to get that $122M? And is that even 10% of the latest Ukraine package? And what's the deficit, again?

And does this mean they laid off the babysitters getting paid on venmo?
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Weird, I logged into twitter this morning instead of dtman.
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Economy grew super fast last quarter.
The U.S. economy grew even faster than expected in the third quarter, buoyed by a strong consumer in spite of higher interest rates, ongoing inflation pressures and a variety of other domestic and global headwinds.

Gross domestic product, a measure of all goods and services produced in the U.S., rose at a 4.9% annualized pace in the July-through-September period, up from an unrevised 2.1% pace in the second quarter. Economists surveyed by Dow Jones had been looking for a 4.7% acceleration.
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TheCatt wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 8:43 am Economy grew super fast last quarter.
Everyone must be doing super well then.
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Leisher wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 9:37 am
TheCatt wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 8:43 am Economy grew super fast last quarter.
Everyone must be doing super well then.
Maybe they need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps, and make better life decisions?
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That's the line that gets the upper classes shot when the revolution comes.
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GORDON wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 10:23 am That's the line that gets the upper classes shot when the revolution comes.
Some people just want to be victims.
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I wont ever be in a mob. But I can observe and understand what is going to rile one up.
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How much of the "improved economy" is because prices are being raised, and people MUST pay them to survive? So more stuff isn't being bought. The same amount is being bought at higher prices.
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Cakedaddy wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 10:50 am How much of the "improved economy" is because prices are being raised, and people MUST pay them to survive? So more stuff isn't being bought. The same amount is being bought at higher prices.
Economists use real GDP, so inflation is taken into account. Nominal GDP is basically a useless.
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GORDON wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 10:34 am I wont ever be in a mob. But I can observe and understand what is going to rile one up.
so how would you fix it?
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TheCatt wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 2:57 pm
GORDON wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 10:34 am I wont ever be in a mob. But I can observe and understand what is going to rile one up.
so how would you fix it?
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