Doctor Who (The one that started in 2005)

Post by **TPRJones** » Mon May 30, 2011 12:53 am

You'll see.

Post by **TPRJones** » Sun Jun 05, 2011 1:58 am

...

There are no words.

Maybe when BBC America catches up there can then be some words.

But not today.

Post by **GORDON** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:40 pm

Holy shit!

That's just what I kept saying through that entire episode. Holy shit.

I wonder if "Let's kill Hitler!" is a joke.

Post by **GORDON** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:50 pm

Post by **TPRJones** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:51 pm

See what I mean? I guess you found some words, but they aren't much more descriptive.

Good stuff.

Post by **GORDON** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:55 pm

SPOILERS AHOY... DO NOT READ UNLESS YOU HAVE WATCHED "A GOOD MAN GOES TO WAR."

Ok. Loved the badass Rory at the beginning, being all badass with the Cybermen. "Do I need to repeat the question?"

Saw lots of speculation about River being Amy's daughter. Think it's real, or a fakeout?

Now I need to watch all these episodes from this season from the beginning and look for things I missed. Sometimes they speak fast with their English accents and I miss a quarter of the dialog anyway, even when the Doctor isn't being sneaky and foreshadowy. I'm almost positive I heard the word "Cybermen" mentioned before this last episode. Almost.

I guess there is no difference in smell between a real baby and an avatar baby. I guess goop babies smell like real babies.

Post by **GORDON** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:08 pm

But I guess now that I am putting more thought into it, in "The Almost People" the Doctor pulled the ol' switcheroo on Amy, to prove you can't tell the difference. So ok.

Wow, it's like actual thought goes into the show.

Also that means Amy told the real Doctor that he saw her die.

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Post by **TPRJones** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:19 pm

GORDON wrote:Also that means Amy told the real Doctor that he saw her die.

Whoa, I missed that. Good catch. Now I have to go back and see what she said.

I'm sure the River/Amy thing is real, based on what I've seen on Doctor Who Confidential. The actors and actresses on the show have secrets from each other, things that they've been told to better inform their performances that they are required not to tell anyone, even the other cast members. This was River's actress' big one.

Post by **GORDON** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:34 pm

SHE saw HIM die.

And right after that real Doctor slammed Amy into a wall, which we were supposed to think was goop Doctor being all mentally unstable. Hmmmmm.

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Post by **TPRJones** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 5:41 am

I think that was his way of pushing her a bit about the goop, to see if she would sympathize or not.

Post by **GORDON** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 4:21 pm

Oh, and,

I PRODUCE MAGNIFICENT AMOUNTS OF LACTIC FLUID.

That guy should have been a new companion.

Post by **GORDON** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 4:54 pm

The first time I watched "A Good Man Goes to War" was a BBC-One copy I had "acquired," and it looked fine, but then I watched it again as a repeat that my DVR pulled from BBC-America.... I am 99% sure it was sped up to fit into their hour time slot. It was very distracting.

(I have my TV room DVR set to record new episodes, and I guess since it was a 1-week delay because of the holiday, they last 2 new episodes weren't flagged as new and didn't record. But I have the bedroom DVR set to record all episodes of Doctor Who, and just keep the 5 most recent, in case there is nothing on live TV I want to fall asleep to.)

Malcolm · Post by **Malcolm** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 6:30 pm

Shows shipped from the U.K. commonly have their length cut down to a multiple of 30 minutes because their state-run TV networks over there don't have to adhere to such stupid, arbitrary, draconian time limits as is seen on U.S. broadcasting schedules (the U.K. has other stupid, arbitrary, draconian rules, worry ye not). In short, blame the advertisers and the network admins that are slavishly devoted to nothing but Nielsen ratings. They're also the people that think bombarding you with adverts every ten minutes encourages you to buy something, as opposed to encouraging you to find a way around watching such tripe ... *cough* *DVR* *cough* *on-demand streaming internet video* ... so you can watch your fucking show.

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Post by **TPRJones** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 3:18 pm

I just watched it again, and even though I knew what was coming I still wtfed all over myself at the end.

This show really has become the pinnacle of good science-fantasy writing. There should be entire required courses about it in film school.

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Post by **GORDON** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:44 pm

Was interesting that this season is sort of happening inside-out, and all timey wimey... and yet it is still attached and belongs with the last season, backwards. I think what happened in the last episode of last season was the last thing that happened at the end of this season...

I think...........

Post by **TPRJones** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 7:29 pm

You mean the wedding? That was indeed before this season in time, from the first episode of the new season they are married.

Post by **GORDON** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:10 pm

Buuuuuuuut........... he did BB2 after Sexy exploded..... I can't figure out whether or not that was the culmination of this storyline.

Post by **TPRJones** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:49 pm

In this last episode when pondering the exact moment of origin of Melody he mentioned that the first time Rory and Amy were together on the TARDIS in this version of reality was on their wedding night. That fits with this season coming after the last one chronologically.

Post by **GORDON** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:40 pm

But that's strange because I guess that means when they rebooted the universe, the bad guys' plan carried over, too. Silents will fall. Silents' Tardis showing up in the Lodger, last season. My private theory that River was captured yo be trained to pilot the alien Tardis, and thus be a "weapon" to be used against the Doctor.

I guess I am proving your point.

Just seems like the bad guys' plan should have had its culmination when they finally captured the Doctor at Stonehenge and put him away in the Pandorica, supposedly for all of eternity. It feels like that should have been the culmination of 2 seasons worth of timey wimey plots.

Post by **TPRJones** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 2:32 pm

I think it's two different plots by two different sets of plotters.

And the rebooting would have recreated everything, including all plotters and plots. The only changes were the people in Amy's life that had been disappearing due to the new retroactively closed gap.

Admittedly the logic behind it all isn't perfect, but it isn't meant to be. It's more about cool story than cohesive story on this show.