Has it ever been explained why when someone dies in a zombie film they themselves become a zombie?
That's always bugged me.
I mean, if it was one event such as a cosmic body passing us causing the dead to reanimate, then wouldn't the reanimation end when the cosmic body was gone? If it's something in the air, then wouldn't the Earth's weather system eventually clean it out?
And don't get me started on the whole "get bit and you become one" thing.
Zombie Rules
"Cosmic body" concept animated the machines in Maximum Overdrive. "The broom." After the comet (?) passed, machines died.
28 Days Later: Rage-infected monkeys. It was actually a virus or something being spread.
But all in all, if a bacteria or virus was going to evolve that would propogate by reanimating dead critters and biting live ones, it would have happened by now...
although, in a way, that's kind of what virii do. Take over the DNA/RNA/Protein replication of a living cell.
Maybe the zombie virus appeared in Earth's past but then ten minutes later the planet-killer asteroid hit and killed all the dinosaurs. maybe the virus is in a mosquito trapped in amber just waiting to reappear.
I sense a movie plotline forming.
28 Days Later: Rage-infected monkeys. It was actually a virus or something being spread.
But all in all, if a bacteria or virus was going to evolve that would propogate by reanimating dead critters and biting live ones, it would have happened by now...
although, in a way, that's kind of what virii do. Take over the DNA/RNA/Protein replication of a living cell.
Maybe the zombie virus appeared in Earth's past but then ten minutes later the planet-killer asteroid hit and killed all the dinosaurs. maybe the virus is in a mosquito trapped in amber just waiting to reappear.
I sense a movie plotline forming.
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
There's ususally one of three explanations for this :
1) Some weird-ass cosmic event. In "Night of the Living Dead," some satellite returning from Venus drilled the Earth w\ strange radiation or something.
2) Disease or virus. We have the classic "28 Days Later" or "Resident Evil" plots.
3) Fuckin' magic or a curse or similar shit.
1) Some weird-ass cosmic event. In "Night of the Living Dead," some satellite returning from Venus drilled the Earth w\ strange radiation or something.
2) Disease or virus. We have the classic "28 Days Later" or "Resident Evil" plots.
3) Fuckin' magic or a curse or similar shit.
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
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My point is still valid though.
Any airborne disease, radiation, etc. would be thinned out and eventually "destroyed" by Earth's weather systems.
Any cosmic body, once it had passed by, would render the zombies dead or at least prevent the creation of new ones (unless they were created through a bite or the virus that is passed in a bite).
If nature created such a virus, it would NOT require a bite to pass the virus. Nature wouldn't require a bite from a predator and then require that the prey escape to create new predators. That doesn't make sense.
I think it's time for someone in Hollywood to give zombies new rules.
My only wish is that they stay slow, mindless monsters. I've seen the new quick and smart zombies and they're pointless. Too many other monsters fill that role. Zombies are about numbers and silent, they're-never-where-you-expect-them-to-be attacks.
Any airborne disease, radiation, etc. would be thinned out and eventually "destroyed" by Earth's weather systems.
Any cosmic body, once it had passed by, would render the zombies dead or at least prevent the creation of new ones (unless they were created through a bite or the virus that is passed in a bite).
If nature created such a virus, it would NOT require a bite to pass the virus. Nature wouldn't require a bite from a predator and then require that the prey escape to create new predators. That doesn't make sense.
I think it's time for someone in Hollywood to give zombies new rules.
My only wish is that they stay slow, mindless monsters. I've seen the new quick and smart zombies and they're pointless. Too many other monsters fill that role. Zombies are about numbers and silent, they're-never-where-you-expect-them-to-be attacks.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
If nature created such a virus, it would NOT require a bite to pass the virus. Nature wouldn't require a bite from a predator and then require that the prey escape to create new predators. That doesn't make sense.
Malaria!
Kind of.
Rabies?
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"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
A big argument I can make for the slow-moving zombie is... if they can do without every other organ except the brain, then they should be drying up FAST. No circulation system, respiration, etc to keep all the limbs in good working order.
Gotta assume brain synapses to move the muscles... but no circulation systm to supply the neuromascular junctions with new potasium? No blood moving oxygen to fuel cellular respiration? Lack of O2 causes Lactic Acid Fermentation to set it, and basically after an hour of vigorous muscle action the zombies would have the equivalent of a full-body, permanent charlie horse. They should also become paralyzed, fast.
Gotta assume brain synapses to move the muscles... but no circulation systm to supply the neuromascular junctions with new potasium? No blood moving oxygen to fuel cellular respiration? Lack of O2 causes Lactic Acid Fermentation to set it, and basically after an hour of vigorous muscle action the zombies would have the equivalent of a full-body, permanent charlie horse. They should also become paralyzed, fast.
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
Let me restate:
Nature wouldn't require the predator to bite the victim when the predator's goal is to completely immediately consume the victim and then also require the victim to escape without any chance of spreading the virus.
Nature wouldn't require the predator to bite the victim when the predator's goal is to completely immediately consume the victim and then also require the victim to escape without any chance of spreading the virus.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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DoctorChaos
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My point is still valid though.
Any airborne disease, radiation, etc. would be thinned out and eventually "destroyed" by Earth's weather systems.
Any cosmic body, once it had passed by, would render the zombies dead or at least prevent the creation of new ones (unless they were created through a bite or the virus that is passed in a bite).
If nature created such a virus, it would NOT require a bite to pass the virus. Nature wouldn't require a bite from a predator and then require that the prey escape to create new predators. That doesn't make sense.
I think it's time for someone in Hollywood to give zombies new rules.
My only wish is that they stay slow, mindless monsters. I've seen the new quick and smart zombies and they're pointless. Too many other monsters fill that role. Zombies are about numbers and silent, they're-never-where-you-expect-them-to-be attacks.
As far as I know there are no airborne disease. Maybe reactions from spores (see Anthrax).
As for passing along via biting. Following that logic, it doesn't make any sense to pass on a virus through sexual activity. It doesn't make sense to pass along a virus through a sneeze.
There isn't much difference. Some diseases are potentially fatal like something eating you. Or you could escape the fatality (disease or predator) and trasmit it further.
Besides, we all know bites don't always occur when preying on something else. :;):
Wadda mean? Other people can read this?!
As for passing along via biting. Following that logic, it doesn't make any sense to pass on a virus through sexual activity. It doesn't make sense to pass along a virus through a sneeze.
The predator in question bites to consume. He/She wants to entirely consume the victim.
Considering they usually hunt in packs this more often than not results in the victim being so damaged that he/she never becomes a zombie.
It does NOT bite in self-defense.
Thus, you're saying that in this case, nature wanted to create a virus that spreads only in the case that a predator can wound, but not kill. Even though every single time it wounds, it's trying to kill.
I cannot wait until zombie week on Discovery. I think it's right after Shark Week.
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"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
I was under the impression that the diseases from "28 Days Later" & "Resident Evil" were man-made. Nature had sod all to do w\ them.
& if you could come up w\ a way to procreate your species efficiently & rapidly w\o resorting to lengthy development periods, wouldn't that make your species that much more deadly? They don't even've to kill you to unequivocally squash competing species.
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& if you could come up w\ a way to procreate your species efficiently & rapidly w\o resorting to lengthy development periods, wouldn't that make your species that much more deadly? They don't even've to kill you to unequivocally squash competing species.
Edited By Malcolm on 1131051742
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
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DoctorChaos
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No, nature didn't want to any of that, unless you believe in ID, yes I am a dick!Thus, you're saying that in this case, nature wanted to create a virus that spreads only in the case that a predator can wound, but not kill. Even though every single time it wounds, it's trying to kill.
I cannot wait until zombie week on Discovery. I think it's right after Shark Week.
Viruses are successful only if the host survives long enough to pass it on to another host (see Natural Selection). A virus can be 100% fatal and still spread because of incubation times.
Now to address the predator that doesn't kill. We all agree there are those below average. Couldn't this apply to zombies? Maybe they aren't too sucessful hunting. A lot of predators go hungry because their prey is too fast for them, but they still manage to get a good swipe/bite at them.
God, I've sunk low. I'm arguing over zombie rules. I might as well go to that topless Halo party their having Saturday. Oh wait, Saturday starts zombie week on Discovery, cool!
Wadda mean? Other people can read this?!
Acutually, in "Day of the Dead," some scientist comes to the (bullshit) conclusion that zombies don't actually need to eat cos they don't use any energy. They just do so cos it's instinctual. Again, utterly bullshit, though.
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
If nature created such a virus, it would NOT require a bite to pass the virus. Nature wouldn't require a bite from a predator and then require that the prey escape to create new predators. That doesn't make sense.
Rabies.
Edited... someone already said this.
Another thing to point out is that a zombie victim in most of the zombie movies I've seen do die, but then they become zombies themselves. So they prey doesn't have to escape to pass the virus.
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