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Sure, but what does that have to do with anything? Trump has done so much illegal and nefarious shit it was believable, but nobody brought charges up against him for the alleged "piss tape". There's actual concrete evidence to go after him for: financial fraud, liability for sexual assault, hush money payments to porn stars, election racketeering, keeping piles of classified documents in his bathroom, and those are just the ones actively proceeding in court right now.
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The subject was people who believe things without evidence, and I was pointing out Republicans don't have a monopoly on that.

Little girl's diary is at least as feasible as the piss tape, because at least the diary exists and the reaction to it's being stolen has been interesting. The feds are involved.

Hillary had a secret, illegal email server in a closet. Biden has a son with a no-show job in a Ukrainian gas company.

Constantly saying one side is bad while ignoring the transgressions of the other is worthy of comment.

That's the point.
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On a side note, I don't know that anything good ever comes from discussing religion, or politics
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GORDON wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 7:14 am Constantly saying one side is bad while ignoring the transgressions of the other is worthy of comment.
This.

It's one thing to run with "innocent until proven guilty", but another thing to only apply that to one side.

If you can't hold both sides accountable equally, you're one of the cultists.
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Leisher wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 4:22 pm If you can't hold both sides accountable equally, you're one of the cultists.
Both sides are not equally guilty. If you think that, you're one of the ignorant.
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TheCatt wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 5:06 pm Both sides are not equally guilty. If you think that, you're one of the ignorant.
Catt doubling down on being a cultist. :-) If you start totaling up all the wrong each side is doing, doesn't it cross a point where it really doesn't matter who's in the lead? Things are just really really fucked up. To accept either side is wrong.
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Cakedaddy wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 5:15 pm Catt doubling down on being a cultist.
:)
Cakedaddy wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 5:15 pm
If you start totaling up all the wrong each side is doing, doesn't it cross a point where it really doesn't matter who's in the lead? Things are just really really fucked up. To accept either side is wrong.
I understand your point, but I also disagree. More evil is worse than less evil. We just have different perspectives.
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I advocate for change. Not the lesser of two evils.
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Cakedaddy wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 5:19 pm I advocate for change. Not the lesser of two evils.
You can advocate for change while still taking what's better in the present.
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TheCatt wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 5:21 pm
Cakedaddy wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 5:19 pm I advocate for change. Not the lesser of two evils.
You can advocate for change while still taking what's better in the present.
By doing that, you perpetuate the status quo. If we don't stop voting for these people, they won't stop sending them.
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Leisher wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 4:22 pm
GORDON wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 7:14 am Constantly saying one side is bad while ignoring the transgressions of the other is worthy of comment.
It's one thing to run with "innocent until proven guilty", but another thing to only apply that to one side.
Stills standing here, asking for concrete proof. It's all I want. Not whataboutism, just... proof... in court.

If things were so "equal" then it should not be hard to nail Biden for something.
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Well, as has been shown through out history, if it can't be proven in court, then there must not be any crime. There's never been a time where someone in power was able to squash things so they don't see their day in court.
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Schrodinger's Biden. Simultaneously a lost-the-plot old man, and a totalitarian dictator that has swept his vast criminal empire under the rug for decades.

Alternatively "the lack of evidence IS evidence"
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I heard trump is going to declare himself dictator. It feels true.
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I'm sure Biden is a great guy. A solid and straight as an arrow politician who's never crossed any lines as he assended the ladder of power and wealth. Lots of good honest people reach these levels of power without ever breaking any rules. Due to the lack of convictions, I'm sure all of our politicians are clean and good people. None of them do anything wrong, since none of them are being prosecuted.

Also, there is NO ONE more qualified for the position of POTUS than Biden. He's perfect for the job and we should be happy to have him.
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I guess when Trump got caught with state nuclear secrets in his bathroom he lost all my support.

And the other guy is old and boring, and despite that great injustice, my life is going pretty well, despite what R's continue to yell at me on Fox News.

So my position is firm and easy? Bring out the evidence. Convict the politicians. Let's have a Hunter Biden, Jared Kushner public hearing.
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First, fuck Trump too. Don't confuse disliking Biden as support for Trump. This is the thread where we talk about Biden. The Trump thread is pretty silent because we all agree he sucks.

But I'm surprised you think Biden is innocent, simply because he's not in court. I mean, you do know that rich powerful people often get away with things just because of their power, money, influence, and connections, don't you?
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TheCatt wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 5:06 pm Both sides are not equally guilty. If you think that, you're one of the ignorant.
Is this a Trump comment or do you actually believe the Ds overall policies and everything you've seen since, let's say Covid, is less evil than the Rs minus Trump?
Cakedaddy wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 6:26 pm By doing that, you perpetuate the status quo. If we don't stop voting for these people, they won't stop sending them.
Yep. There's a legit fix to this, but people are so stuck in the two party system that they refuse to even entertain the idea.
Troy wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 6:43 pm Stills standing here, asking for concrete proof. It's all I want. Not whataboutism, just... proof... in court.
That worked for the feds and Capone too.
Cakedaddy wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 3:05 am First, fuck Trump too. Don't confuse disliking Biden as support for Trump. This is the thread where we talk about Biden. The Trump thread is pretty silent because we all agree he sucks.
THIS.
Cakedaddy wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 3:05 am But I'm surprised you think Biden is innocent, simply because he's not in court. I mean, you do know that rich powerful people often get away with things just because of their power, money, influence, and connections, don't you?
For example: Where is the Epstein client list?
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Leisher wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 9:16 am Is this a Trump comment or do you actually believe the Ds overall policies and everything you've seen since, let's say Covid, is less evil than the Rs minus Trump?
I mean, how do you remove Trump from the Rs? Before Trump, I certainly leaned slightly R. But my views have also changed, so hard to say.
Leisher wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 9:16 am Yep. There's a legit fix to this, but people are so stuck in the two party system that they refuse to even entertain the idea.
The barriers to anything but a 2 party system are massive.
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Better PR, word of mouth, and useful idiots to help spread the word, does not equal "more evil."

In fact, it almost means the opposite of that.
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