Anyone seen the petitions begging for new Harry Potter books?
If you were worth over a billion dollars due to 7 books, would you continue writing to thank the people who made you rich or would you buy the dtman island and retire?
For you Harry Potter fans
I would thank them from DTMan Island, retired. I'd have a lot of spare time to send notes.Leisher wrote:Anyone seen the petitions begging for new Harry Potter books?
If you were worth over a billion dollars due to 7 books, would you continue writing to thank the people who made you rich or would you buy the dtman island and retire?
It's not me, it's someone else.
TheCatt wrote:I would thank them from DTMan Island, retired.
I think I'd write two books under a pseudonym.
I'd make them in the same universe as Harry Potter, but not obviously in the same universe. I'd put in a lot of connections that people would assume were ripoffs.
Maybe a story about someone who has no idea that witches/wizards are real, yet he/she has to cope with some sort of strengthening evil/magical force. Gradually he/she gets the strength/knowledge/magic-skilz to battle the evil.
At the very end of the second book I'd introduce the Harry Potter universe. Sort of a, "Surprise! You've been reading backlog to the new Potter book." Maybe have an acquaintance (who ends up being a character from the H.P series) gives the evil a name, Voldermort. Then end the book with the aquaintance introducing an "old friend" that he called in, Harry Potter.
Then I'd write one more where the two series are combined into one epic finale.
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I would end the Harry Potter books but write story lines for other popular characters from time to time.
There not done though after a while J.K. Rowling is going to miss not being the most famous person on earth every few years or so and will write another book in that universe.
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There not done though after a while J.K. Rowling is going to miss not being the most famous person on earth every few years or so and will write another book in that universe.
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Stephen King wrote a short story featuring Roland Deschain, "The Gunslinger," in a period before the first DT book begins. I wish he'd do a lot more of that.
The DT storylinem is finished, but there's a shitload of time unaccounted for between his test of manhood, and the beginning of DT book 1.
The DT storylinem is finished, but there's a shitload of time unaccounted for between his test of manhood, and the beginning of DT book 1.
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
The DT storylinem is finished, but there's a shitload of time unaccounted for between his test of manhood, and the beginning of DT book 1.
Really? I thought King said he had like 7 books worth of material and he didn't even know if he'd finish before he died.
So is the comic some of the "unaccounted for time"?
“Every record been destroyed or falsified, books rewritten, pictures repainted, statues, street building renamed, every date altered. The process is continuing day by day. History stops. Nothing exists except endless present in which the Party is right.”
So far, from what I've read in the comic, it is the area immediately around Roland's getting pushed to take the manhood trial before he was supposedly ready.
That entire sequence was already told in flashback in one of the books, so so far, no new material has been presented in the comic.
And trust me... no matter how much material he has in his head about Roland, there can be no more story told beyond book 7....... he must be referring to that unaccounted for time I mentioned.
And back on topic, Rowling could tell short stories about the build-up to Harry's getting the scar on his head.
That entire sequence was already told in flashback in one of the books, so so far, no new material has been presented in the comic.
And trust me... no matter how much material he has in his head about Roland, there can be no more story told beyond book 7....... he must be referring to that unaccounted for time I mentioned.
And back on topic, Rowling could tell short stories about the build-up to Harry's getting the scar on his head.
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
Anyone seen the petitions begging for new Harry Potter books?
I hope not one more fucking word is written about that fictional motherfucker.
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Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
I actually quit reading book 7 when Stephen King said he thought it should end. He said that beyond that point was something he wrote to satisfy the readers, not something he thought should be a part of the story.GORDON wrote:And trust me... no matter how much material he has in his head about Roland, there can be no more story told beyond book 7....... he must be referring to that unaccounted for time I mentioned.
I wanted to respect his wishes and end it the way he wanted it to end.
I did eventually read a short description of the fan ending, and didn't find it satisfying.
Stephen King did start writing books as Richard Bachman, and they did take place in King's universe. I have a lot of respect for that move.
No, you hope this.Malcolm wrote:I hope not one more fucking word is written about that fictional motherfucker.
Paul wrote:GORDON wrote:And trust me... no matter how much material he has in his head about Roland, there can be no more story told beyond book 7....... he must be referring to that unaccounted for time I mentioned.
I actually quit reading book 7 when Stephen King said he thought it should end. He said that beyond that point was something he wrote to satisfy the readers, not something he thought should be a part of the story.
I wanted to respect his wishes and end it the way he wanted it to end.
I did eventually read a short description of the fan ending, and didn't find it satisfying.
Stephen King did start writing books as Richard Bachman, and they did take place in King's universe. I have a lot of respect for that move.
I think you have that backwards. The "quit reading here" is the "everything tied up nicely in a bow for people who need that" ending, but it isn't the true ending. You really have to read to the end to get the true impact of the series.
The last 12 words of the book change.... everything.
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"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
One of us is confused. I pulled out the book.
Then he goes on to say that ending are painful and messy and you'll probably be disappointed. He says that people who don't want to be disappointed should stop reading. I think you're misinterpreting the quit before being disappointed warning with a pussies should quit now but real fans should read on warning.
Then chapter 2 is basically him sighing in disappointment that you're still reading on.
Then he reluctantly continues to please the "give me the answer I paid for, damn it!" people by writing an ending.
And I know what the ending he reluctantly wrote was. I never read it though.
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Found (Coda)
I've told my tale all the way to the end, and am satisfied. It was (I set my watch ant warrant on it) the kind only a good God would save for last, full of monsters and marvels and voyaging here and there. I can stop now, put my pen down, and rest my weary hand (although perhaps not forever; the hand that tells the tales has a mind of its own, and a way of growing restless). I can close my eyes to Mid-World and all that lies beyond Mid-World. Yet some of you who have provided the ears without which no tale can survive a single day are likely not so willing. You are the grim, goal-oriented ones who will not believe that the joy is in the journey tather than the destination no matter how many times it has been proven to you. You are the unfortunate ones who get the lovemaking all confused with the paultry squirt that comes to end the lovemaking (the orgasm is, after all, God's way of telling us we're finished, at least for the time being, and should go to sleep). You are the cruel ones who deny the Grey Havens, where tired characters go to rest. You say you want to know how it all comes out. You say you want to follow Roland into the Tower; you say that is what you paid your money for, the show you came to see.
I hope most of you know better. Want better.
Then he goes on to say that ending are painful and messy and you'll probably be disappointed. He says that people who don't want to be disappointed should stop reading. I think you're misinterpreting the quit before being disappointed warning with a pussies should quit now but real fans should read on warning.
Then chapter 2 is basically him sighing in disappointment that you're still reading on.
Then he reluctantly continues to please the "give me the answer I paid for, damn it!" people by writing an ending.
And I know what the ending he reluctantly wrote was. I never read it though.
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OMG, that is soooo wrong. I love it!Paul wrote:No, you hope this.Malcolm wrote:I hope not one more fucking word is written about that fictional motherfucker.
Wadda mean? Other people can read this?!
Awesome.DoctorChaos wrote:OMG, that is soooo wrong. I love it!Paul wrote:No, you hope this.Malcolm wrote:I hope not one more fucking word is written about that fictional motherfucker.
It's not me, it's someone else.
Going with the motif of the book (the interaction of the author and his role in writing), that would not be the real ending. King even mentions his own intrusions into the Dark Tower mythos, writing things in the series that should not be considered canon because he steered off course to either please himself or to please others.GORDON wrote:But it was the real ending, and it defined the entire series, and therefore the REAL fans got the real answer, in spite of the ass-licking he supposedly did when he warned the dilettantes off by saying "stop reading!"
The motif was that the Tower was writing the story through King, and anything that King did on his own was an interference and was not to be considered canon.
Then at the end of the book he pretty much says that the Tower is done with him. That means that everything, from that point on, is King's story, not the Tower's.
So, while it is impossible for the story/words/writing to separate itself from itself, it makes every effort to do so.
That is, since it's at the end, it's impossible for it not to be the "real ending" you mentioned. I chose to honor the effort, maybe to spite the theory of writing classes I had? After all, it is just as true that if King wiped his ass with the last page, that smear would be the real ending.
I thoroughly believe that if Stephen King gets it in his craw to write a book 8 of the Dark Tower series (he admits that he might not not have quit "forever; the hand that tells the tales has a mind of its own, and a way of growing restless.") that it will pick up where I quit reading, his desired stopping point. I, being somewhat of a writer myself, wanted to honor his desired stopping point, and remain unencumbered by the technicality that there are more words at the end.
The last page wasn't a shit stain, so I guess I don't need to address that.
I also think it may be impossible to persuade you with my argument about the end of the book since you NEVER EVEN READ THE END OF THE BOOK. Oops, caps lock, my bad.
Learn about what we're talking about and then I'll take the time to address any points you wish to make. "I read about it on a spoiler forum" doesn't cut it any more than reading the Cliff Note version of Moby Dick gives you a taste of whale oil production.
(Oh snap! Oh no I di'int!)
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I also think it may be impossible to persuade you with my argument about the end of the book since you NEVER EVEN READ THE END OF THE BOOK. Oops, caps lock, my bad.
Learn about what we're talking about and then I'll take the time to address any points you wish to make. "I read about it on a spoiler forum" doesn't cut it any more than reading the Cliff Note version of Moby Dick gives you a taste of whale oil production.
(Oh snap! Oh no I di'int!)
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"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
In my opinion, King felt that the story should end there. He even steps outside the storyline and specifically addresses the reader to make this point. I chose to honor that.
If something in the latter part of the book specifically invalidates his "everything past this point is simply to satisfy the goal-oriented people who need a concrete ending" speech, please let me know what it is.
The way I see it, our disagreement stems from the fact that I value the writer's intentions over his actions, and you value his actions over his intentions. Plus you really liked the ending, and disagree that the book should have ended where Kings says it should have ended. Would that be a good way to sum it up?
I'm curious though. While the last page wasn't a shit stain (and I never said it was, I said that if it was a shit stain that shit stain would be the real ending), what if the editor chose to write an ending of his own and publish that instead? Would that count as the real ending?
In my opinion, King felt that the story should end there. He even steps outside the storyline and specifically addresses the reader to make this point. I chose to honor that.
If something in the latter part of the book specifically invalidates his "everything past this point is simply to satisfy the goal-oriented people who need a concrete ending" speech, please let me know what it is.
The way I see it, our disagreement stems from the fact that I value the writer's intentions over his actions, and you value his actions over his intentions. Plus you really liked the ending, and disagree that the book should have ended where Kings says it should have ended. Would that be a good way to sum it up?
I'm curious though. While the last page wasn't a shit stain (and I never said it was, I said that if it was a shit stain that shit stain would be the real ending), what if the editor chose to write an ending of his own and publish that instead? Would that count as the real ending?