Season two starts tonight. I looks like there's an hour long catch up episode before they begin the new series.
I saw a 30 minute catch up episode a couple weeks ago on some cable channel, which didn't cover much.
I can't wait!
TV: Lost - NO FUTURE SPOILERS - Season 2 - NO FUTURE SPOILERS
Lost was fantastic. They haven't missed a beat from last season.
Invasion sucked monkey balls.
Invasion sucked monkey balls.
“Every record been destroyed or falsified, books rewritten, pictures repainted, statues, street building renamed, every date altered. The process is continuing day by day. History stops. Nothing exists except endless present in which the Party is right.”
Lost was good,
A mini-debate in my head was whether the dude in the hatch and the stadium were physically the same, or metaphysically the same. The stuff in the hatch was clearly ancient (70s? 60s?), but the stadium scene wasn't so old, clearly. So has dude been in the hatch the whole time, or is it physically the same guy and he got into the hatch during his "race around the world" somehow?
A mini-debate in my head was whether the dude in the hatch and the stadium were physically the same, or metaphysically the same. The stuff in the hatch was clearly ancient (70s? 60s?), but the stadium scene wasn't so old, clearly. So has dude been in the hatch the whole time, or is it physically the same guy and he got into the hatch during his "race around the world" somehow?
It's not me, it's someone else.
They are making stuff up, but not every week. More like every several episodes.
The first season, they started with a very clear idea of who the people were, their back-stories, etc. I think that's why it was so strong is that so much of it was decided ahead of time. That will be much harder for them to do going forward, as they are probing marginal territorities with those characters. They will introduce fresh blood, but I bet a lot of viewers end up hating the new characters just cuz.
Oh... anyone heard the rumours about which person is leaving this season? (Do we need to get that spoiler thread back?)
The first season, they started with a very clear idea of who the people were, their back-stories, etc. I think that's why it was so strong is that so much of it was decided ahead of time. That will be much harder for them to do going forward, as they are probing marginal territorities with those characters. They will introduce fresh blood, but I bet a lot of viewers end up hating the new characters just cuz.
Oh... anyone heard the rumours about which person is leaving this season? (Do we need to get that spoiler thread back?)
It's not me, it's someone else.
The shizzle in the hole was at least 20 years old.
However, that ultra-bright hallogen flashlights like that (10 millin candlepower is my guess) have only been around a few years. I love flashlights, and keep thinking about buying a 15 million candlepower light on eBay).
As soon as the runner at the stadium told Jack, "See you in another life" (or something similiar) I knew he'd be back on the island. I just didn't expect to see him so soon.
My friend, who caught the series during the re-runs this summer, says that he thinks every survivor of 815 has killed somebody. That's what links them all. I couldn't argue against it, since there are still too many unknowns.
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However, that ultra-bright hallogen flashlights like that (10 millin candlepower is my guess) have only been around a few years. I love flashlights, and keep thinking about buying a 15 million candlepower light on eBay).
As soon as the runner at the stadium told Jack, "See you in another life" (or something similiar) I knew he'd be back on the island. I just didn't expect to see him so soon.
My friend, who caught the series during the re-runs this summer, says that he thinks every survivor of 815 has killed somebody. That's what links them all. I couldn't argue against it, since there are still too many unknowns.
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As far as making stuff up as they go along, here's my opionion of how the writing goes.
I think that before the series began, they had the rules of the island down, the (not necessarily specific) who/what/when/where/why of the bunker on the island, and specific reasons for including a half dozen or so of the castmembers.
So, they knew Hurley was a fat guy who won the lottery after getting the cursed numbers, but they didn't know what specific bad stuff had happened or that he'd own Locke's box company, or why he went to Australia until they sat down and started adding details.
As they go about telling the subplots, they make up (create) connections that obey the rules and support the framework of the where they planned the overall story to go.
They had an ultimate goal/solution/explanation/thing, and they had a general idea of how they wanted to get there, and points they want to hit along the way, but the specific path gets decided a few steps (episodes) ahead of time.
I think that before the series began, they had the rules of the island down, the (not necessarily specific) who/what/when/where/why of the bunker on the island, and specific reasons for including a half dozen or so of the castmembers.
So, they knew Hurley was a fat guy who won the lottery after getting the cursed numbers, but they didn't know what specific bad stuff had happened or that he'd own Locke's box company, or why he went to Australia until they sat down and started adding details.
As they go about telling the subplots, they make up (create) connections that obey the rules and support the framework of the where they planned the overall story to go.
They had an ultimate goal/solution/explanation/thing, and they had a general idea of how they wanted to get there, and points they want to hit along the way, but the specific path gets decided a few steps (episodes) ahead of time.
I think they have a several year plan in mind. I know other shows have done similar things. I believe Babylon 5 was one such show that had a set number of years planned out. Ditto for My Name is Earl. Notice that he revealed the length of his karma list, thus he'll only go so far and then the show if it continues will have to shift its focus.
Remember, they have said since the beginning that everything will make sense in real terms without any magic or anything like that, so they have to know what the monster is and what's behind everything.
Adding onto that, I'm pretty sure the tail section people were planned before the show began and were just cast now because the show was picked up for another season.
Remember, the tail section was missing from day 1. Why do that unless you're planning something for it? Boone talked to the "survivors of Flight 187" (or whatever number it is) when he was on that drug plane. Also, they kept implying that there might be other survivors by openly wondeirng where the tail was, they talked about how the manifest didn't match the number of bodies and survivors, etc.
I think the thing they do keep changing is which storylines/roles are given to each character. Jack was supposed to die in Episode 1. Now here we are in Season 2 and he's a main character.
I think the only character that may be safe in Locke. They keep discussing his destiny and he is the driving force behind the suvivors exploration of the island. It's also obvious that the island doesn't want him dead.
Now to discuss Invasion again, for those who missed it, Invasion made The Day After Tomorrow look like a documentary. I've seen more attention to detail in an Ed Wood film.
Remember, they have said since the beginning that everything will make sense in real terms without any magic or anything like that, so they have to know what the monster is and what's behind everything.
Adding onto that, I'm pretty sure the tail section people were planned before the show began and were just cast now because the show was picked up for another season.
Remember, the tail section was missing from day 1. Why do that unless you're planning something for it? Boone talked to the "survivors of Flight 187" (or whatever number it is) when he was on that drug plane. Also, they kept implying that there might be other survivors by openly wondeirng where the tail was, they talked about how the manifest didn't match the number of bodies and survivors, etc.
I think the thing they do keep changing is which storylines/roles are given to each character. Jack was supposed to die in Episode 1. Now here we are in Season 2 and he's a main character.
I think the only character that may be safe in Locke. They keep discussing his destiny and he is the driving force behind the suvivors exploration of the island. It's also obvious that the island doesn't want him dead.
Now to discuss Invasion again, for those who missed it, Invasion made The Day After Tomorrow look like a documentary. I've seen more attention to detail in an Ed Wood film.
“Every record been destroyed or falsified, books rewritten, pictures repainted, statues, street building renamed, every date altered. The process is continuing day by day. History stops. Nothing exists except endless present in which the Party is right.”
Like Alias. I think he has an ultimate plan for Rombaldi (I think he'll come back to take over the world), but he makes up each of the devices and storylines as he goes along.JJ Abrams is not one known for forethought in tv series.
Hey, things are dull, let's bring in her mother. Okay, things are dull, lets add a sister. Now what other twists can I think of... um... the sister is now the chosen one, or not. But she's the bad guy's daughter. Blah blah blah.
I know there's a writing group for Lost. I think they come up with neat idea, so they change paths whenever they can come up with something neat.
Oh, and I do think they had a pretty good idea of what was in the hatch. Maybe they didn't have a specific name, but they had a general of what what it was, why it exists, and the type or person/people in the hole.
Vaughn should be married. Oh wait, people hate the new character, let's make her evil and kill her.
Sidney's happy with Vaughn... maybe he's not really Vaughn?
This SD-6 thing rocks, but, uh, how do we write ourselves out of it? Let's just get rid of it.
Anna Espinosa kicks ass! Yeah, she keeps kicking Sid's ass. Uh... let's just forget about her for a few seasons.
Sidney's happy with Vaughn... maybe he's not really Vaughn?
This SD-6 thing rocks, but, uh, how do we write ourselves out of it? Let's just get rid of it.
Anna Espinosa kicks ass! Yeah, she keeps kicking Sid's ass. Uh... let's just forget about her for a few seasons.
It's not me, it's someone else.
I watched Lost again this morning.
I thought it was odd that Jack drank Desmond's water (when his ankle got hurt).
Obviously Desmond had something to do with the blonde (Jack's future wife) being micaculously healed. Unless there was some sort of miracle potion in that water that turned Jack into a miracle worker.
I think this episode also revealed why someone is going to go after Jack in a future episode.
Two patients went into the E.R., a guy and a pretty woman. The accident was the pretty woman's fault. Jack had to choose between helping one of them, so he helped the woman. While he did so, the guy died. Then Jack gets romantically involved with the woman who caused the accident, and marries her.
If I was close to the guy who got hit and died, I'd be pissed at Jack. It'd be really easy to figure that Jack ignored the innocent victim to help the person who caused all the trouble, simply because Jack thought she was hot.
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I thought it was odd that Jack drank Desmond's water (when his ankle got hurt).
Obviously Desmond had something to do with the blonde (Jack's future wife) being micaculously healed. Unless there was some sort of miracle potion in that water that turned Jack into a miracle worker.
I think this episode also revealed why someone is going to go after Jack in a future episode.
Two patients went into the E.R., a guy and a pretty woman. The accident was the pretty woman's fault. Jack had to choose between helping one of them, so he helped the woman. While he did so, the guy died. Then Jack gets romantically involved with the woman who caused the accident, and marries her.
If I was close to the guy who got hit and died, I'd be pissed at Jack. It'd be really easy to figure that Jack ignored the innocent victim to help the person who caused all the trouble, simply because Jack thought she was hot.
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It could have been age, it could have been that she was the most likely to live. That doesn't matter.
If your loved-one was hit by a careless driver, then the doctor choose to save the person who caused the wreck... then gets romantically involved with her, how can you not question his motives?
Love is blind. Age and logic don't really matter when the doctor saves the pretty murderer so he can date her, leaving your innocent husband/father/brother to die.
If your loved-one was hit by a careless driver, then the doctor choose to save the person who caused the wreck... then gets romantically involved with her, how can you not question his motives?
Love is blind. Age and logic don't really matter when the doctor saves the pretty murderer so he can date her, leaving your innocent husband/father/brother to die.
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Oh, I agree, bad call. Just saying, there's room for differences there. However, I blame the hospital first. A doctor shouldn't have to make that choice. If one doctor is working to save one person's life, he/she shouldn't have to choose between that life and another. They both should have been helped by different doctors due to the severity of their wounds. Period. If I were the family of the dead man, I would sue the hospital for being severely under-staffed.