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I think America really wants Bond to be transgender.
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And if you dont agree then you are a subhuman homophobic piece of shit and your opinion isnt worth listening to.
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Idris Elba is the odds on favorite.

It's what America wants... :D I mean, you can't just go and create a new spy series where the character has his or her own backstory that fits their sexuality, look, personality, etc. *cough*JasonBourneJackReacherEvelynSaltAustin PowersHarryHartBryanMillsHarryTaskerJohnMasonJackRyanEthanHuntEggsybutIdigress...*cough*

Actually, I like this move. I don't really care about changing the color of an established character's skin (if it works in the character's story and isn't just to be PC or try and attract a different audience). I dig Elba's work. I also like the idea of Bond being more of a cover for MI5's top agent, which is NOT canon, but could be used to easily explain the different actors playing him or her.
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Leisher wrote: Idris Elba is the odds on favorite.

It's what America wants... :D I mean, you can't just go and create a new spy series where the character has his or her own backstory that fits their sexuality, look, personality, etc. *cough*JasonBourneJackReacherEvelynSaltAustin PowersHarryHartBryanMillsHarryTaskerJohnMasonJackRyanEthanHuntEggsybutIdigress...*cough*

Actually, I like this move. I don't really care about changing the color of an established character's skin (if it works in the character's story and isn't just to be PC or try and attract a different audience). I dig Elba's work. I also like the idea of Bond being more of a cover for MI5's top agent, which is NOT canon, but could be used to easily explain the different actors playing him or her.
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Producers wanted Danny Boyle to kill Daniel Craig's Bond.
“It would also leave it open for a twist in the next instalment — either Bond hadn’t died or there could be a Doctor Who-esque regeneration with a new actor.
Uh, you already have that...

It sucks when people who don't understand an IP have the rights to it.
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I did not realize that Bodyguard guy was Robb Stark.

But the next 007 will be a black woman.

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I think we're starting to see some sort of weird bet hedging from Hollywood and their looking for intersectionality victimhood cover. In the last week or so people around the new Terminator movie have been tweeting about how sexists don't like seeing a strong female in the movies, ignoring the central female protagonists in most of the series. It makes me suspect that they're getting negative reviews from test audiences and they're trying to set the stage to make it someone else's fault.

Now it seems like they're trying to bake the escape hatch into the cake now.
‘There are spectacular chase sequences and fights, and Bond is still Bond but he’s having to learn to deal with the world of #MeToo.’
If this sucks, this will be why. Not because they designated a black woman as 007.
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TheCatt wrote: But the next 007 will be a black woman.

Q the whining.
Why? She's not Jane Bond, she's just taking his agent number after he retires. This is a new character. Who gives a fuck what skin color they have or what they have between their legs?
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Old 007: but how.can she be James Bond? That's a man's name.
M: you're so old fashioned and sexist. That's the problem with white men. Look at you assuming her gender.

Because that's what Britain wants.
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Leisher wrote:
TheCatt wrote: But the next 007 will be a black woman.

Q the whining.
Why? She's not Jane Bond, she's just taking his agent number after he retires. This is a new character. Who gives a fuck what skin color they have or what they have between their legs?
I'm sure someone cares.

But I like the approach of having both characters, at least for a transition period.
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TheCatt wrote:
Leisher wrote:
TheCatt wrote: But the next 007 will be a black woman.

Q the whining.
Why? She's not Jane Bond, she's just taking his agent number after he retires. This is a new character. Who gives a fuck what skin color they have or what they have between their legs?
I'm sure someone cares.

But I like the approach of having both characters, at least for a transition period.
Somewhere someone probably does care, but fuck them. They're racist and/or sexist. I don't say that with sarcasm either. This women is NOT James Bond. This is an entirely new character, so if you're butt hurt over this it can ONLY be because of your bigotry. If she was the new James Bond, I'd be more willing to hear people's complaints.

I also like the transition thing.
GORDON wrote: Old 007: but how.can she be James Bond? That's a man's name.
M: you're so old fashioned and sexist. That's the problem with white men. Look at you assuming her gender.

Because that's what Britain wants.
I laughed.

Can we just agree that all roles should go to minorities, preferably LGBTQ minorities?

I wonder if they have diversity issues like this in Bollywood or the Chinese cinema. Not a lot of black folks in The Wandering Earth.
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Ok, so "No Time to Die."

Craig was back, and this is the last one.

This is a James Bond film. If you are looking for a James Bond film, this is one.

Craig has made... 4 films? I think he has retired 5 times through the course of them.
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Craig's run established that "James Bond" isn't just a title, and he died. So technically there can be no more "James Bonds" unless they erase the last 5 movies from canon, and do a proper reboot.
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GORDON wrote: Sat Sep 24, 2022 8:19 am Craig's run established that "James Bond" isn't just a title, and he died. So technically there can be no more "James Bonds" unless they erase the last 5 movies from canon, and do a proper reboot.
He died? Spoiler alert.
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It's years old. Past spoiler rules.
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They really shouldn't have kept bringing Bond into the present day, but this is a problem with our culture: milk every last drop of cash out of every IP. Sure, beloved heroes have stayed around for a long time: Achilles, King Arthur, Robin Hood, whatever. But they're not constantly brought into the present (imagine Achilles fighting off the Turks or Robin Hood sending a clothyard shaft through the Kaiser's heart :roll: )

When Mad Men was hot, I felt like there was a golden opportunity for the Bond franchise to just make movies set in the 60s. Having Bond set in the 21st century ruins his backstory: he was a WWII commando for crying out loud.
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