"Complete Devastation."

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From here.

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Reminded me of sex with my ex-wives. Lots of build up with an ending that didn't quite meet the level of hype.
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After predicting that New Orleans could be wiped off the Earth, which didn't even come close to happening, I'd say "complete devastation" is probably a bit strong for Katrina.

Andrew makes Katrina look like a sneeze.

People in the Mississippi valley are looking at those pictures and thinking "We call that 'Spring.'"

People in Indonesia are saying, "Get out of the wading pool."
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Well, it dropped down to a cat 4 before it hit, so wasn't as impactful.

But it's still not eactly pretty.
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Post by Mommy Dearest »

Have you seen Gulfport\Biloxi? Found one casino two blocks away. NOLA Saved Devastation elsewhere.
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Yah, sucks really. The 'devestation' was completely in the wrong place.
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Post by stceciliaspride »

I don't know...the flooding is the truly scary part now. The levee at industrial canal has been practically destroyed in one place. The hole is almost 2 city blocks wide. And of course the pumps for other parts of the city are directing the water into THAT canal, meaning the flooding is just being moved around. Reports are saying the water in the 9th ward is almost 20 feet deep, now.

The newspaper has been evacuated and even the hospital may be evacuated because the water level is still rising - as of noon-ish today, the hospital was taking on water at about one inch per hour.

I-10 is impassable, with huge sections completely destroyed.

We've not seen the end of this yet.
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Post by DictionaryDave »

That seems pretty far from complete devastation. Those buildings all seem to still be undevastated. Wet..yes.. flooded....yes.....devastated....no
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Post by stceciliaspride »

what exactly do you call 20 feet of water, then?

what do you call it when you're trapped in your attic and even the rescuers can't reach you, despite your screaming from the attic of your house?

what do you call having no drinking water and no electricity and no hope of escape?

what do you call bodies floating through the streets, bloated and bruised?

please, help me understand.
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what exactly do you call 20 feet of water, then?

what do you call it when you're trapped in your attic and even the rescuers can't reach you, despite your screaming from the attic of your house?

what do you call having no drinking water and no electricity and no hope of escape?

what do you call bodies floating through the streets, bloated and bruised?

please, help me understand.
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Post by stceciliaspride »

I understand, but that is easier said than done.

The neighborhoods that appear to be the hardest hit are the ones where many people do not own cars and would have had to walk for 10+ miles.

Yes, I think they should have evacuated, but they didn't.

And for anyone to say that New Orleans isn't devestated merely means they haven't kept up with the aftermath of the storm. Or they have no heart.

I happen to have people I love still unaccounted for, so I'm more than a bit emotional on this one.
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Post by Paul »

The could've at least shown something like this for that quote.
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I understand, but that is easier said than done.

The neighborhoods that appear to be the hardest hit are the ones where many people do not own cars and would have had to walk for 10+ miles.

Yes, I think they should have evacuated, but they didn't.

And for anyone to say that New Orleans isn't devestated merely means they haven't kept up with the aftermath of the storm. Or they have no heart.

I happen to have people I love still unaccounted for, so I'm more than a bit emotional on this one.
Ask Gordo, 10+ miles is nothing if your life may depend on it. People who tried to ride out the storm in their homes made a very VERY stupid choice. It's not like this was some sort of damn suprise. There were many places to evacuate to in the city (Superdome), they needed to do so. I hope anyone sitting on the top of their home gets rescued, but damn, people die for making such stupid decisions (See Darwin Awards). I just can't feel that sorry for any adults. Children are a whole different damn story. Just like seat belts, children should not be made to suffer for the idiocy of their parents.
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1. I doubt anyone in that cuty didn't know the storm was coming for at least 24 hours.

2. The headline is "COMPLETE Devestation," yet the image they included showed a neighborhood in about two and a half feet of water, telephone poles and trees still standing, and a city skyine off in the distance. I posted it because it was ironic. They said COMPLETE and they showed SOMEWHAT.

3. The levees had not yet broken when I made the post.

But #1 is the important point. You can walk a long way in 24 hours, kids or not.
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Post by DictionaryDave »

what exactly do you call 20 feet of water, then?

what do you call having no drinking water and no electricity and no hope of escape?

what do you call bodies floating through the streets, bloated and bruised?
I call that being in the Infantry.

Seriously, I was commenting solely on the caption as it related to the picture. It was ironic in that buildings were still standing and not fully submerged so not "Complete"


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I agree. Even poor people can walk. I feel really really bad for all people affected. However, I can't help but call the roof dwellers complete morons for putting themselves at risk, as well as the rescuers.

I was laughing at the pictures of the looters running around taking stuff. Morons. Wonder where their loot is now. I was waiting for some guy to get picked up off a roof in one of those helicopter baskets holding his looted 42 inch plasma.
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I was laughing at the pictures of the looters running around taking stuff. Morons. Wonder where their loot is now. I was waiting for some guy to get picked up off a roof in one of those helicopter baskets holding his looted 42 inch plasma.
You know what I kept thinking of when I was hearing about the looters? All the critics of Bush when we took Bagdad and the museums getting looted and how he "didn't properly plan" for the war.

Will these same ass holes talk about how the mayor and governor "didn't properly plan" for the aftermath of the hurricane?
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Yup. Was reading an article bashing Washington for spending more too much reactionary stuff and not enough on preventive stuff.

Oh ya, it was the local mayors and stuff doing the blaming. Read the article below the one this links to.

Blame Shifting

What I can't figure out is. . . . . why the mayor and local people didn't pay more for preparedness.




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I was laughing at the pictures of the looters running around taking stuff. Morons. Wonder where their loot is now. I was waiting for some guy to get picked up off a roof in one of those helicopter baskets holding his looted 42 inch plasma.
*I* was laughing because these idiots were looting TV's.

In a city that wouldn't have power for months, that they couldn't leave.

Seems to me it's a lot easier to loot a box of bullets, and let the other guy carry the heavy stuff home for you.
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Post by TPRJones »

There are probably a few people that have extrememly odd circumstances that didn't allow them to evactuate. There are certainly a lot of kids that have stupid parents. The vast majority of those still in the area I have zero sympathy for, though. As far as I'm concerned if they chose to stay they chose to die. Period.

What really gets to me is the devistation over in Mississippi. The governor is quoted as comparing it to Hiroshima, and whne I first heard that I scoffed. However, at least in pockets along the coast, it's absolutely true. It's not as vast as the tsunami destrcution, but in some smaller areas it is just as intense.

Biloxi/Gulfport is the part of the coast down there I'm most familiar with, and with the images I've seen I'm betting their casino industry is just about done. The Beau Rivage is the only casino that doesn't appear to have suffered major structural damage, so it will probably reopen. As for the rest I bet there'll be a change in state law to allow them to open up inland, and we'll see Jackson become the new Biloxi.

New Orleans ... that's a whole other story. This is what happens when you build your major city below the water line. I bet at least a couple of the poorer flooded neighborhoods will just be written off as new swampland.

What a mess.
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