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On the one hand, you can pay a babysitter less than a truck driver. On the other hand, aren't truckers unionized? They'll pitch Jimmy Hoffa levels of shit before they let themselves become extinct.
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GORDON wrote:On the one hand, you can pay a babysitter less than a truck driver. On the other hand, aren't truckers unionized? They'll pitch Jimmy Hoffa levels of shit before they let themselves become extinct.
This. And, there's a LOT of people pissed off about having shitty jobs. This will turn into a jobs program.
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Malcolm wrote:
TPRJones wrote:Which will eventually be done by automated smart systems.

Nah, the paranoia of people is always going to guarantee a human failsafe ... well, unless someone cracks the secret of real AI.
For that I was replying to this part: "number of embedded systems and mobile programming jobs"

I agree that for some time there will still be a requirement to have a human in the vehicle. But eventually that will go away right about the time the law becomes that no one may manually drive a vehicle on public roads.
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Dumb-ass.
But this issue stems from human error of a different sort, based in the programming of the autonomous systems. The vehicles apparently perform what are known as ‘hook right’ turns, turning directly from the driving lane, where California requires drivers to first move into the open bike lane before performing the turn. Those responsible for programming Uber’s autonomous vehicles either failed to heed this requirement or were unable to properly implement this procedure.

Self-driving cars may have issues with understanding complex roads more generally. Bike lanes are only one of the many obstacles that self-driving cars must confront on the roads. If Uber’s vehicles are having issues with bike lanes, they could also face issues with more complex road formations, such as traffic circles or highway ramps, as well as unpredictable, pedestrian-heavy urban areas.
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Malcolm wrote:Dumb-ass.
But this issue stems from human error of a different sort, based in the programming of the autonomous systems. The vehicles apparently perform what are known as ‘hook right’ turns, turning directly from the driving lane, where California requires drivers to first move into the open bike lane before performing the turn. Those responsible for programming Uber’s autonomous vehicles either failed to heed this requirement or were unable to properly implement this procedure.

Self-driving cars may have issues with understanding complex roads more generally. Bike lanes are only one of the many obstacles that self-driving cars must confront on the roads. If Uber’s vehicles are having issues with bike lanes, they could also face issues with more complex road formations, such as traffic circles or highway ramps, as well as unpredictable, pedestrian-heavy urban areas.
Simple solution. Self driving bikes.
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Executives leaving Uber.

Is this a house cleaning or a sign to sell your stock?
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Uber's private, there's no stock to sell.

That being said, it's still losing a fortune, so no one should have bought it to begin with.
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I think it's funny that Uber is in our Lexicon, but Lyft is the superior service.
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Leisher wrote: I think it's funny that Uber is in our Lexicon, but Lyft is the superior service.
Is it easy to get Lyft's in non CA cities? I've always wondered that. It's big in SF, but then it's HQ'd there.

Uber gets a lot of money from us. Probably 30% rides 70% food. My wife likes Lyft.
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I've never used Lyft, what's superior about it?
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TheCatt wrote: I've never used Lyft, what's superior about it?
Never used. I know you can/are encouraged to tip the drivers. So it's... more expensive? That only sounds superior for the drivers.
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Is it easy to get Lyft's in non CA cities?
Yeah, it's catching up with Uber. Caught a Lyft out of Toledo airport, so... Vegas and St. Pete/Tampa Bay had tons of both.

From what I understand a lot of Uber drivers are also Lyft and vice versa.
I've never used Lyft, what's superior about it?
Their original introductory offer was the shit. 5 free rides if you were referred. I started using Lyft in Vegas (July 2016) and we basically hit the city with free transportation the whole week. Now their intro offer is down to $30 off your first 3 rides, which is still better than Uber's offer of nothing.

Lyft's app is better than Uber's. The rating system is better, and yes you can tip in the app, but you can do it after the driver leaves. So you can do your comments and all that without looking like an asshole or anything. So more expensive? Only if you never tip your Uber drivers.

Also, Lyft has been doing backgrounds checks and screenings on their drivers since day 1. Uber doesn't.
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It's been a great month for Uber.
An Uber representative said at the time that the incident was the result of human error, but internal sources told The New York Times the Uber was driving itself when the incident happened.
Incident?
A self-driving Uber car was involved in an accident on Friday night in Tempe, Arizona, in one of the most serious incidents to date involving the growing fleet of autonomous vehicles being tested on US roads.

A photo posted on Fresco News' Twitter feed showed a self-driving Uber Volvo SUV on its side.
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TheCatt wrote: Not Uber's fault?
I bet the shitty driver will be spared 99.99% of the trouble hitting and flipping an SUV full of people would have caused. Price of innovation for Uber I guess.
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Troy wrote:
TheCatt wrote: Not Uber's fault?
I bet the shitty driver will be spared 99.99% of the trouble hitting and flipping an SUV full of people would have caused. Price of innovation for Uber I guess.
Well, most people who cause accidents don't get world-wide news coverage. It was the non-Uber driver who caused it.
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TheCatt wrote:
Troy wrote:
TheCatt wrote: Not Uber's fault?
I bet the shitty driver will be spared 99.99% of the trouble hitting and flipping an SUV full of people would have caused. Price of innovation for Uber I guess.
Well, most people who cause accidents don't get world-wide news coverage. It was the non-Uber driver who caused it.
No I get it. My point is that because it's an accident involving an Uber auton-vehicle, and there have already been very misleading headlines on this, Uber is going to try hard to sweep this under the rug - fault be damned. The shitty driver will get a pass.
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Uber created fake Lyft customer accounts, tricking Lyft’s system into believing prospective customers were seeking rides in various locations around a city. That allowed Uber to see which Lyft drivers were nearby and what prices they were offering for various routes, similar to how such information appears when an authentic Lyft app is opened on a user’s smartphone, these people said.
Fake as in bot-created accounts or fake as in "Uber paid someone to set up a Lyft account only intended for real-time map info and not getting a ride?" What makes that map so protected if anyone can set up an account from any phone and get the same service? I assume they just compared blips in Uber geography to blips in Lyft geography and make some implicit conclusions.
The program was also used to glean data on drivers who worked for both companies, and whom Uber could target with cash incentives to get them to leave Lyft, said these people, who added that the program was discontinued last year.
Yeah, because employers buying employees away from competitors is completely alien to the world of biz.
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