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Not according to CNN:

No High School - Bush 49%, Kerry 50%, Nader 0%
H.S. Graduate - Bush 52%, Kerry 47%, Nader 0%
Some College - Bush 54%, Kerry 46%, Nader 0%
College Graduate - Bush 52%, Kerry 46%, Nader 1%
Postgrad Study - Bush 44%, Kerry 55%, Nader 1%

Besides, in most cases it's the pHds that will be too stupid to figure out a complex ballot, IMO.
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Hey, goddamit!
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Well, not all cases, obviosly. You might get lucky. :)
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TPRJones wrote:Not according to CNN:

No High School - Bush 49%, Kerry 50%, Nader 0%
H.S. Graduate - Bush 52%, Kerry 47%, Nader 0%
Some College - Bush 54%, Kerry 46%, Nader 0%
College Graduate - Bush 52%, Kerry 46%, Nader 1%
Postgrad Study - Bush 44%, Kerry 55%, Nader 1%

Besides, in most cases it's the pHds that will be too stupid to figure out a complex ballot, IMO.
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Okay. And?

Still looks like the figures you posted disagree with CNNs figures to me. And it looks like uneducated peeps favored Kerry slightly, with regularly educated peeps favoring Bush and overeduated peeps favoring Kerry.

Am I missing something?
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Now re-read the CNN site. That's where my figures came from.

They are listed below your figures, I believe.
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Ah, I see now.

It's those darn college dropouts that are messing up the figures.
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I have taxied to victory!
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So, I was thinking: how about in America II in order for a politician to win office he must win the votes of at least 50% of the eligible voters.

Not 50% of the voters, 50% of the eligible voters. Not voting counts as a vote to leave the office empty. In the case that more than 50% of eligible voters turn up but no one wins, the top two candidates get one shot at a run-off election. If there is still no winner, then the office goes empty until the next election cycle. (or maybe always have a run-off, but count "null vote" as a candidate that can win the election, so that most run-offs would have one guy trying to get over 50% of people to show up and vote for him as the only choice)

Maybe even go a step further, and say any position unfilled for two election cycles is declared unneccessary and written out of the government processes. I figure any job that at least half the people can't agree on who should do it, or even IF it should be done, maybe it's not all that important that position even exist.

EDIT - It would also help curtail all this "calling it early" crap, since it's much harder to track how many people are even going to show up when that's a factor in who might win.




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Government destroyed by general apathy and distate for candidates.

I like it.

We would have lost the President a while ago.
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Yup, and I for one fail to see the problem with that. :)
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Interesting... voter turnout declined during the Gilded Age of 1900 to the 1920's, and then climbed at the Great Depression.

People are more likely to care about their government when they're hungry? Metaphorically.
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Seems to be some sort of weak correlation there.
1872 - good times
1876 - recession (two decades long)
1929 - Great Depression
1970s'-early 80's - multiple recessions
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I think a lot of uptight fuckers had problems w\ how the '20s went & decided to be bastards.
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The executive branch already has a lot of things in place to continue running without the figurehead of president. What's even more interesting is the amount of apathy (IMHO) concerning congressional elections. We could just remove the legislative branch of government. As far as I'm concerned we all win. The judicial branch could rule all the stupid laws unconstitutional and we have a simpler set of laws.
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Until some wacky President attempts to pack the court, again.
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Until some wacky President attempts to pack the court, again.
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Nah, FDR tried to pack the Supreme Court with ringers when they kept declaring his New Deal ideas unconstitutional. Which in itself was an attempted subversion of the government.
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Nah, FDR tried to pack the Supreme Court with ringers when they kept declaring his New Deal ideas unconstitutional. Which in itself was an attempted subversion of the government.
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Post by DictionaryDave »

We don't need to vote. Some corporation will come up with a formula to tell how we would have voted anyway.
No muss, no fuss. The candidates are picked by the parties and then the numbers are run and Viola. We don't have to be hassled with making any decisions they will be made for us.

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