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So Firefox forced an update on people and you don't get a reload button any more and people are pissed about those 2 things and so I just loaded Chrome for the first time.

I am trying to customize my toolbars.

Do I have to sign in to google to do that? Because I cant figure it out and all the help documents tell me to sign in as step 1.
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If you sign in, then your settings will go with you wherever you go (other computers, new computers, etc, when you sign in to them)



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If I sign in then the NSA can track every system I use via browser. Is signing in the only option?
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GORDON wrote:If I sign in then the NSA can track every system I use via browser. Is signing in the only option?
They already track you illegally. Just live with it.
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Whoa. There's a reload ... button? Like, a button that says "ctrl+f5" or what?

EDIT: Wtf are you talking about? There's still a reload button, it's simply smaller and located at the right end of the nav bar.




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The NSA's motto should be: "We know what you stroke it to".
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GORDON, I don't understand. I am not logged into Chrome - I never have even once - but I have no problem going to options and picking whatever. It never even asks me to log in unless I try to set up sync or some other thing that does require a google login.

Maybe some screen shots would help explain your problem?
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Malcolm wrote:Whoa. There's a reload ... button? Like, a button that says "ctrl+f5" or what?

EDIT: Wtf are you talking about? There's still a reload button, it's simply smaller and located at the right end of the nav bar.
I'll repeat what I said in the original post: peeps are mad that there was a forced update, and they are mad the MOVABLE, customizable reload button was removed for no apparent reason.

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/998505

And what does ctl have to do with refreshing a page using the keyboard? Plain ol F5 works rather well all by itself. Which isn't the point.

I seem to recall you were irritated the "open in new tab" and "open in new window" options were swapped at one point. That was less irritating than this.
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TPRJones wrote:GORDON, I don't understand. I am not logged into Chrome - I never have even once - but I have no problem going to options and picking whatever. It never even asks me to log in unless I try to set up sync or some other thing that does require a google login.
Then answer my question, please. Tell me how to customize toolbars without logging in, because the chrome help guides all say "sign in and hit toolbar options and then hit the wrench." I haven't signed in, I don't see toolbar options, and I don't see a wrench. Hitting alt doesn't bring up the menus I am used to seeing. The little button on the right that seems to have every menu under it doesn't have toolbar options that I can see.

https://support.google.com/toolbar/answer/2392132?hl=en
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What kind of customization do you want?
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Malcolm wrote:What kind of customization do you want?
I'll do these one at a time so they don't get jumbled up:

Chrome:

<s>I want a button to open Bookmarks somewhere to the left of the URL window. I dont want to have to mouse over to the only button I see on the right side of the screen.</s>

Actually, back up. Where in the fuck is the "customize toolbar" option? I can't even find that. If I can find that I can probably figure the rest out myself.
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Oh. That's not part of Chrome you linked to. That's Google Toolbar, one of those annoying extra things you can install into any browser like Yahoo Toolbar or Lycos Toolbar. It's Chrome independent. That's probably why it was insisting on a login; those Toolbars are practically a form of malware IMO.

In Chrome if you click on the wrench on the far right then go to Options you can then change various settings and there's a section called Toolbar on the Basics tab. Some more advanced options can be found by entering "about:flags" into the address bar.

What are you trying to change, anyway? The address bar is pretty static and there's not much on it to be customized. Trying to swap the locations of the back and forward buttons, just to be ornery?

Edit: Try the "Always show the bookmarks bar" option, that might be useful. If you have a lot of them organize them into folders. Here's a screenshot of what mine look like:

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The first two are google and my outlook work email, both nameless to minimize them and save space. Then folders of stuff. Then some random things I've tossed on lately that are one-offs or need to be stuck into folders.




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TPRJones wrote:
Oh. That's not part of Chrome you linked to. That's Google Toolbar, one of those annoying extra things you can install into any browser like Yahoo Toolbar or Lycos Toolbar.
Fucking google. I searched on this: "how do i customize toolbars in chrome" and that was the first link that came up because i didn't notice it was something completely different.

Anyway, things you are describing that I do not see:

1. Wrench on the side. I have no wrench, but I have 3 horizontal parallel lines. Hitting that button, I see:

2. Many options, including one that says settings. Fine. But...

3. There is nothing that says "basics," and there is no toolbar customization that I can see.

The first thing I want to actually change is to figure out how to get a "Bookmarks" button on the left side of the browser.
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After your edit: I don't want to "always show bookmarks."

I guess if I need to I can bury my existing bookmark tree under a single folder and then show just that folder and pretend with "always show bookmarks" that it is a button.

This browser is spare. Ordinarily that is ok, but all I can see is forward, backward, and reload. The ONLY other button is way over on the right. That's all I got and I can't seem to customize it.
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I don't know exactly what it is you intend or if it can be done, but here's what I'm referring to which might help:

EDIT - Posted while I was screnshotting. Now I understand. Let me think on this.

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This version I have doesn't have "options," it has settings.

There is no "basics" option under settings.

And those 2 little options under toolbars... is that what they consider to be "customization?"
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Yeah, you can't actually customize toolbars like you are used to in other browsers. That's one of the few drawbacks in Chrome. But personally I think the good stuff outweighs it.

Okay, I have a solution that is not exactly what you are asking for but may be close enough to be satisfying after you use it a bit. Three steps:

1) open a new tab and enter "chrome://bookmarks/#1" in the address bar. You may need to tweak the number to get exactly the right page showing.

2) right-click the tab and "pin tab" so that it's now small and over there on the left on the tab bar. Open a new tab to the right of that to do some browsing and see if having that pinned tab of bookmarks available on the left pleases you.

3) If so, try doing what this article says to make it permanent.

If you wanted a button to the right that would be easier. I'm sure there's several good bookmark extensions that would do what you want, and extension are on the right of the address bar. Left is harder.
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No customization... that's huge.

I swear to god these fuckers are going to drive me back to IE.
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GORDON wrote:No customization... that's huge.

I swear to god these fuckers are going to drive me back to IE.
Provided you aren't a developer, it's not that bad. Fucking dev hell, though.
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