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Stole this image from the Images thread because it warrants a discussion.

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Erectile Dysfunction among the youngins is way outpacing the geezers.

I hear a lot that guys aren't interested in relationships or even fucking, just video games and jerking off to OnlyFans or YouPorn. To be fair, a relationship EXACTLY how you want it, no nagging, no schedule getting fucked because you have to go to _________ just because you're in a relationship, living alone, never having to worry about someone else's needs and desires, all the money you save, not being considered a creep because you want to have sex with your spouse, no worrying about aligning love languages, the freedom to do anything, have a dog for companionship, and so on sounds fucking amazing. Seriously, show me the bad part.

To any women bitching about it, I'd simply point out that this is what they wanted. They've spent decades taking control of relationships, making marriage toxic, making the penalties for leaving it far more brutal on a man, portraying men as morons with only sex on their minds who could never exist without a woman, portraying men as a "luxury parent" and not a necessity, re-writing history, bitching about a toxic patriarchy that created everything they enjoy including the freedom to complain about and try to destroy it, mocking women who want to be stay at home moms, mocking women who defer to their husband on decisions, pretending that our gender roles aren't real, and about a billion other toxic behaviors and attitudes that have led to a world where guys aren't only not giving a fuck about marriage/relationships, but are also the minority, meaning the supply is limited.

Women get EVERYTHING. I won't even bother starting the list because it's fucking endless, but tell me where women are actually at a disadvantage to men. It's their world. Yet they still spend all their time bitching about it. They want MORE than everything.

Young single women are so absolutely broken because of the generations before them doing all this damage and passing on unrealistic expectations of what a marriage and relationship should be, and it's all slanted completely to the woman.

Yes, corporate America also gets some of the blame here due to them making two income households more of a necessity than a luxury, but most of the blame still lies very much with feminism.

And yes, men have some responsibility too. If we expect women to live up to the pedestal we put them on, then we need to act like it. Somewhere along the way it became ok to talk down to them, hit them, not give them pleasure in bed (Not picking on you Gordon! :D ), not hold doors, and yada yada yada. Plus, if they're a homemaker perhaps their solo work day ends when your day does and you both can deal with the kids and dinner at night?
(And vice versa on that last one if the man stays home.) Treating your spouse like a slave and then sex doll probably wasn't a wise move for long term happiness.

I know we don't often have female visitors these days (and not because of misogynistic stuff like I typed above :D ), but I'd love to have this real debate with feminists because I know what their entire argument would boil down to: Family, kids, and love. All things that can exist without marriage.

As a man, I can go get every need fulfilled without being married, so why be married?

Disclaimer: I am very pro-female. I think they are so much better than men in so many areas, but that doesn't mean all. I'd go so far as to say they are the superior sex, but I also believe the sexes are equal and utterly useless without the other. I know that sounds contradictory, but it's not if you read closely. This diatribe is just some thoughts I've been mulling over and testing out. I'm pretty tired of people screaming for equality, while never acknowledging their responsibilities, advantages, and when equality has been achieved. Women, particularly white women, are easily the most guilty of this crime.
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Leisher wrote: Thu Oct 20, 2022 3:05 pm but I'd love to have this real debate with feminists because I know what their entire argument would boil down to: Family, kids, and love. All things that can exist without marriage.
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TheCatt wrote: Thu Oct 20, 2022 3:25 pm
Leisher wrote: Thu Oct 20, 2022 3:05 pm but I'd love to have this real debate with feminists because I know what their entire argument would boil down to: Family, kids, and love. All things that can exist without marriage.
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I said "real debate" not "have my posts ignored while women all up in their feels typed 'MISOGYNIST' at me over and over." :D

BTW, you can combine this study with the study I always reference about people on the right being far more fulfilled with their sex lives, having it more often, and being more open to experimentation in the bedroom. Gen Z is the most woke ever, most mentally disturbed, and have no sex.

Everything is fine.
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Leisher wrote: Thu Oct 20, 2022 3:05 pm I know we don't often have female visitors these days (and not because of misogynistic stuff like I typed above ), but I'd love to have this real debate with feminists because I know what their entire argument would boil down to: Family, kids, and love.
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Leisher wrote: Thu Oct 20, 2022 3:48 pm I said "real debate" not "have my posts ignored while women all up in their feels typed 'MISOGYNIST' at me over and over."
There'd be no debate in 2x, they'd immediately ban you and delete the post.
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I've been saying for decades.... and been criticized.... for pointing out that most people think 2-parent, stable households produce the most well-adjusted children, yet society's swing toward things that erode it... celebration of casual sexual encounters, "I don't need no man to have babies", etc.... could possibly have bad repercussions. I'm called a prude, nazi, misogynist, homophobe, sometimes Boomer.

And here we are with 10% of all high school kids on Adderall, and most of the rest haven't been diagnosed yet.

The other day my 17yo Zoomer said to me, "Dad, how did you manage to raise me to be so cynical?" And I think that was a compliment to good parenting, in 2022, when the other day at school they had an exercise to "Find out whose land you live on," meaning which historical native american tribe had their land stolen where you live.
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GORDON wrote: Thu Oct 20, 2022 4:15 pm meaning which historical native american tribe had their land stolen conquered where you live.
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TheCatt wrote: Thu Oct 20, 2022 4:29 pm
GORDON wrote: Thu Oct 20, 2022 4:15 pm meaning which historical native american tribe had their land stolen conquered where you live.
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I told him, "I don't know where they were, but I know their immune systems sucked."
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Tell him to ask the teacher if they're be covering how Native Americans weren't really native to America and how they routinely went to war with one another and did fun things like slavery and genocide. :lol:
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I already taught him to smile and nod, and he doesn't need to win arguments with people if it doesn't matter. "Just regurgitate what the boss/teacher wants to hear, and get your A/paycheck."

And now he's cynical, heh.
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Leisher wrote: Thu Oct 20, 2022 9:52 pm Tell him to ask the teacher if they're be covering how Native Americans weren't really native to America and how they routinely went to war with one another and did fun things like slavery and genocide. :lol:
I saw somebody on Twitter arguing that there's no archaeological evidence of that before the Spaniards came. Everything was sunshine and rainbows apparently.
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thibodeaux wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 8:36 am
Leisher wrote: Thu Oct 20, 2022 9:52 pm Tell him to ask the teacher if they're be covering how Native Americans weren't really native to America and how they routinely went to war with one another and did fun things like slavery and genocide. :lol:
I saw somebody on Twitter arguing that there's no archaeological evidence of that before the Spaniards came. Everything was sunshine and rainbows apparently.
These people simply do not understand human nature, which is why they're so eager to give up their guns, bend the knee to Uncle Sam, and let majority rule.
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Color me skeptical.

How does one tell the difference between being flirty, charming, polite, etc.?

To a jealous partner, simply being polite is flirting.
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David's Bridal filed for bankruptcy and engagement ring sales are way down.

Lots of fingers can be pointed to why young people aren't lining up to be married, but honestly, the biggest one needs to be pointed at feminism.

Saw a clip a while ago where a guy was interviewing some women about marriage. They had been chatting about their needs for a man, and he summed up (paraphrasing), "So you need a taller guy, in shape, who makes 6 figures, is chivalrous, doesn't cheat, is always there for you, does half of the house keeping and child rearing, has to be a protector and support you financially, and so on. Ok, so what are you bringing to the relationship?"

Crickets until one girl said, "me".

Considering divorce laws strongly favor women...

I mean, I wouldn't get married again. Ok, I might because I'm a stupid romantic, but I would never tell someone to get married.
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One used to have to buy the cow. Now the Tinder app gives one lots of milk for free.
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GORDON wrote: Wed Apr 26, 2023 11:09 am One used to have to buy the cow. Now the Tinder app gives one lots of milk for free.
Young women today have been lead very astray by the women's movement. They think body count doesn't matter and are shocked when guys just want to fuck them but would never marry them.

Reminds me of the article we posted recently where pornstar Lana Rhoades thinks it's BS that people think she's no longer trophy wife material. Who the fuck wants to put everything they ever worked for and their freedom on the line for a participation trophy?
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Magical thing about the Tinder app is that when the cows get too old to give milk, there's younger cows always on there.

I criticism Puritanism as much as the next guy, but the "women should be able to fuck without stigma" movement has really fucked over the ones who are looking for committed, stable relationships.
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GORDON wrote: Wed Apr 26, 2023 11:16 am Magical thing about the Tinder app is that when the cows get too old to give milk, there's younger cows always on there.
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Saw this via the Twitters today. A dude complaining about the excuses his wife makes to avoid sexy times.
Last night we were kidless (rare), we had no work to do, I had cleaned the kitchen and picked up, we both had showers… I foolishly suggested we pour a glass of wine and watch a movie. She agrees but almost immediately started rubbing her temple. After a few minutes she starts talking about her killer headache and how it came out of nowhere. Then she stated “the smoke from those Canadian wildfires is probably causing this, I’m gonna go lay down.”… I was in disbelief. I hysterically started laughing… which made her mad. Of all the reasons, excuses, whatever she could have used to not spend time with me, much less be intimate.. (I’m used to headaches, allergies, stress, the bird is singing too loud outside the window, she can’t get in the mood when the moon is waning…) last night Canadian wildfire smoke was the winner.

We live in the southern US.
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