TheCatt wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:44 am
Leisher wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 9:00 pm
People exposed to the smoke can suffer negative effects to their health, but at a dramatically reduced rate.
US estimates 41k per year die due to 2nd hand smoke. That's almost half of all alcohol deaths.
Fascinating that the debate about 2nd hand smoke went from "not a single proven death" to 41K annually.
Is this the same US that says if a gun is fired within a mile of a school, it's a school shooting? The same US who says if someone was in hospice with incurable cancer and dies, as long as they had covid present in their system, covid is ruled the cause of death? The same US who is now in the health care business and has every incentive to fudge numbers to justify whatever legislation they want to enact to lower their costs?
Listen, smoke is smoke. It's bad, mmk? So is pickling yourself or driving the wrong way down a highway because you're three sheets to the wind.
More importantly, it continues to prove my point that this is not a great move by the government because today they're justifying certain tobacco products, but tomorrow they're going to justify something else. THAT is the issue here.
Ban smoking from any public place or even within 100 yards of any public place, except cigar bars. Sure! Make it so you can only smoke at home or in your car. Sure! Make it a crime to smoke in a home or car without windows open if others are present. Sure!
And honestly, I can justify banning menthols because they apparently crystalize shit in your lungs and do more damage than regular cigarettes. However, banning flavored cigars? WTF is that about except seeing if they can get away with it? Let's say this ban was booze related, they are essentially banning all the premixed and flavored Jack Daniels products like Blackjack Cola, but Jack Daniels is perfectly acceptable? Where's the logic?
Another thing that would be crazy easy to justify is free climbing. Ban that shit! Life isn't a video game. You don't respawn. One mistake and you die or suffer life altering injuries that the government is going to have to pay for. And it's only a matter of time before every single person makes that mistake. Many of the best free climbers in the world seem to meet their fate via that one mistake. If we're banning one thing that
might eventually kill you, why not all?
Also, fun fact: No matter what anyone does or what the government bans, we all die.
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