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I think Greg Abbott is a tool, but I do find this policy hilarious. The mayors of SF, Chicago, New York, etc. talk big games about being welcoming to illegals, which is easy when you're not on the border. Greg is sending them a small taste and they're bitching about it.

Buses of illegals from Texas arrive in Chicago.
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Can't have it both ways. If you brag you give sanctuary, then don't piss and moan when you're called on it. It's all a nice sentiment when it doesn't affect you.

I wonder if I can donate to Texas for bus fare.
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Yeah, yeah, it's Daily Wire, but the press conference is real. DC mayor declares state of emergency due to bus loads of immigrants from Texas.

Really easy to be a "sanctuary city" and talk big about how awesome you are to immigrants when you're not a border city, which according to the woman in the video below is beneath them.
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I wonder if she can hear her own words.
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The hypocrisy being exposed by these illegal alien deliveries has been fun to watch. Then I get sad as I watch their base refuse to hold them accountable, just like the other side...

I mean, are they fucking trolling us? Are we sure the average IQ is 100? You'd have to have an IQ under that to think she's in any way on the correct side here:
Jean-Pierre: "The children that Governor DeSantis abandoned...deserve better than being left on the streets of D.C. or Martha's Vineyard."
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Yeah, I've been seeing a level of cognitive dissonance I've not seen wince W, over this issue. Texas shipping them out, bad. NYC shipping them out, good. They don't try to defend or explain their position, it just is.

And these are people who claim to vote. We're done.
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How did they get to Martha's Vineyard? Bus + ferry? Planes?
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I wonder how they got people on the planes/buses. Oh, they lied and bribed.
The migrants said a woman they identified as "Perla" approached them outside the shelter and lured them into boarding the plane, saying they would be flown to Boston where they could get expedited work papers. She provided them with food. The migrants said Perla was still trying to recruit more passengers just hours before their flight.
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"She (Perla) offered us help. Help that never arrived," Andres said. "Now we are here. We got on the plane with a vision of the future, of making it." He went on to explain why he boarded the plane with so little information in hand. "Look, when you have no money and someone offers help, well, it means a lot."
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For the zillionth time, neither Rs nor Ds give two fucks about you, your family, your rights, or this country. They care about money, power, and grandstanding for votes.
TheCatt wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 9:48 pm Oh, they lied and bribed.
Well shit! That completely negates the hypocritical responses given by every single "sanctuary city". We all know it's ok to bitch and complain about migrants being dropped off in your city, that you previously claimed was open for them, if Rs bribed and tricked them into going.

I mean, could you imagine the outcry from the left if the Ds was sending immigrants around the country without people knowing?

And seriously, it's funny to watch Ds eat their words in this case and try and shift blame back to the Rs. That's where Gordon and I have found enjoyment in this situation. That does not mean we don't know how absurd this is by the R governors and how it's a clear political stunt.

We also know that Ds are just as responsible, if not more so. One MILLION migrants in less than 2 years to "await trials"? How efficiently do you think that's going? Think things are like a five star hotel down in those shitty, poor border towns or Border Patrol camps? Maybe AOC will take another trip to check on conditions and pretend like she actually cares about them (and pretend like she even went inside again)? I'm sure Ds handing out free education, welfare, etc. to illegals has nothing to do with why they're coming. I mean, in Iran you can be killed for crossing the border illegally, but here we can't wait to give you free shit. Learn the language? Nah, we don't require that! We'll spend billions and inconvenience our own citizens so you don't have to acclimate to our society. Just vote blue when you have the chance, ok?!

Handing out all that free stuff and also trying to legislate so those same people can vote is pretty awesome too, huh?

Hey, remember Jan 6th when a bunch of tourists were allowed to walk around the Capital building and the MSM pretended like our democracy was thisclose to falling to a bloody coup? What is it called when a political party bribes 15M illegals and then gives them the ability to vote, thus altering the political landscape?

But I digress...

The REAL issue is why there's a border crisis in the first place and why the federal government is doing less than nothing in dealing with it. And please understand, this goes back years and years. No, building a wall was not only NOT a solution, it was also insanely wasteful and stupid. We should be accepting folks, but they need to earn that shit like all the people who come here legally and sit on a waiting list for years. Let people in to wait for trials, sure. But ensure the feds fund the appropriate means to take care of them properly and know where you MUST cut off the line. While they're waiting, teach them the language, the history, the culture, etc. so they can more properly assimilate and succeed, and not end up as a nanny for some rich couple in Nantucket.
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By the way, being pretty frustrated at idiocy from the C Suite at my own job today might have sparked my lashing out at the idiocy of our country's leaders here.

Are there any good leaders anywhere?
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Leisher wrote: Fri Sep 16, 2022 1:50 pm Are there any good leaders anywhere?
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Honestly, I don't know if I'm more disgusted at them or at all of us (employees at my company or citizens of the country) for just taking it all and doing nothing about it.

And I'm talking about sane people not the deranged asshat cultists who worship a letter and party.

You know the people...

So you're telling me that of the millions of issues in the world your beliefs match up perfect with your party's on every one?
Yep!
And you also believe they are infallible on every single one of those issues?
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Meanwhile, I'm not sure comparing them to trash was the right thing to do... (I'm hearing it was deleted.)

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Bower's comments aren't contradictory though. The question is whether they will work towards accommodating those people and building the infrastructure, which is not addressed.

The trash quotation was from a Venezuelan American. Intersting.
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TheCatt wrote: Fri Sep 16, 2022 9:52 pm Bower's comments aren't contradictory though. The question is whether they will work towards accommodating those people and building the infrastructure, which is not addressed.
To be fair, you are correct. Do we really think she's making the claim with that in mind? Do we believe they will build such infrastructure? Do we ask why the feds haven't bothered to build such infrastructure? Do we ask why Biden claims Rs are circumventing a process in place in border towns, when the people being bussed, by law, have to have already been processed? Do we ask why the immigrants that went to Martha's Vineyard have already been bussed out by Ds, where they were sent, and why it's ok to bus them away from there, but not an underfunded, understaffed, and overwhelmed border town? Has anyone in the MSM asked why it was ok for the Biden administration to bus out immigrants to CA and FL previously and why it was never covered as a major news story?
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First of all, someone might want to tell Olbermann about all the buses and flights Biden's admin has put immigrants on.

Secondly, has anyone destroyed their life as much as Olbermann due to politics? Fired from every network he's worked at for being a toxic douchebag. He's gone from being part of the most famous anchor duo on ESPN to CNN to MSNBC and somewhere in there was that failed left wing channel, to being a contributor at DailyKOS (I'm not making this up) and a podcaster.

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The immigrants they love so much were taken out by the national guard within 48 hours of their arrival.

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Martha vineyard immigrants get lawyers https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... epublicans
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Venezuelan asylum-seekers
That's D code for illegal immigrants.

What a coincidence that the day after Biden's admin started looking into legal ways to stop Rs from doing this, the ones shipped to Martha's Vineyard are going to sue. Political stunts indeed...

Only in the US can illegals be welcomed with open arms, flown to the most exclusive island in the country, get evacuated within 48 hours by the national guard because the tolerant sanctuary island wanted nothing to do with them (We support you!!!...but only from a distance.), and then sue over their treatment.

This is like when the burglar successfully sued a home owner for a faulty skylight that he fell through and hurt himself WHILE COMMITTING A CRIME.

Also, the reason they're here is because Venezuela went socialist and failed miserably, but the MSM won't talk about that. I've yet to see actual MSM reports about the migrant crisis on the border between Venezuela and Columbia. Weird how Venezuela was headline news daily when Chavez was making it seem like socialism was working and he was very anti-R. Once it goes to shit, silence.

Everyone on every side of this is an asshole. The Rs, the Ds, the MSM, the citizens of Martha's Vineyard, and any "asylum-seekers" who helped Chavez turn their country into a shithole.
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