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Cakedaddy wrote:I'm surprised they didn't bash it for it's lack of bluetooth support. Unless the BB's sucks too.

I don't use it much, but so far it's been good. I've paired it with headphones and earpieces with no problems. I've used it to back up to my computer without the cable. And I once used it to serve up my data connection to a laptop when I was nowhere near wifi (which you aren't supposed to be able to do with it on T-Mobile, but it did it anyway).

I wish I could close/collapse folders. I have alot of folders. So, I'm having to scroll more and more as I create them.

I don't think the default mail browser on the Blackberry does folders. At least I haven't used it that way; I've got four email addresses all dumping into one list. But then that list is usually empty unless I just got a new message, because I've not hooked my primary work or home email address directly into my Blackberry. I set up alternate email addresses for the device that I then have selective forwarding rules to from my mains. I don't want all sorts of junk showing up on there, just the important stuff. But I did set up SMTP on the main addresses, so I can send out from them and no one will know the difference.

EDIT: Oh! Okay, yes, there are folders, but you don't have to use them seperately.




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GORDON wrote:
Leisher wrote:P.S. This was posted via my Blackberry.
Probably on the crapper after lunch.
Actually, I was still at the restaurant, but now that you mention it...nature calls...

P.S. I'm usually on my Nintendo DSi while in the crapper.

A new plus:
Finally found a game worth playing. Pocket Tanks. The free version is feature packed with MANY hours of replay in it. It's my new time killer. Simple to play (pick the angle/power and hit fire). But there are a handful of terrains you can pick from (flat, hills, valleys, etc) and 25 different ammo types to use. Reminds me of "Worms", which is $5 and might be the first game I actually buy.


Yeah, I remember that game from way, way back in the day. I do believe Worms was kinda, sorta based on it.

: And this would be the second most ignorant thing I've learned today about the iPhone. I bought four extra batteries for my BlackBerry (at $5 each). I've got a charged extra battery at home, one at work, one in my car, and one in my laptop case. I never plug in my phone; I swap batteries every two or three days and toss the dead one into my charger overnight. I can't imagine being forced to regularly tether a mobile device for power. That completely defeats the whole purpose of having a device be mobile.


That's one of Apple's big money makers. The Macs, iPods, and iPhones all have proprietary shit jammed into them. Apple makes more off of replacements and service contracts than they would off accessories like batteries.
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The Macs, iPods, and iPhones all have proprietary shit jammed into them.

I've never owned an Apple product yet. If this stays true I never will.

I think everything I own is either open sourced or standardized in some manner. As a customer there is no good reason for anything to be proprietary unless it is so cutting edge that no one else is doing it yet. I don't care about what the company wants, as a customer it will be my way or I'll go somewhere else.
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When you go to the local AT&T store, you see a happy video of all the things the iphone can do. One of the bits shows a user texting his friends and setting up meetings. In one of the texts, he includes a picture of a sailboat with a witty comment to go along with it.

Well, as it turns out, texting pictures, while available on the iphone, is not supported by AT&T. So, it can do it. . . just not on the ONLY carrier that you can use the phone with. Their suggestion is to email the picture to whoever needs it. Ya, that's cool. What if they don't have a data plan. Then just email it to their phone number. Ok, cool. What's their domain name? You can call the person and ask them. Really? Who the fuck knows what their cell phone's domain name is? I'm on AT&T, and it's not att.com.

Also, the iphone can do so many things. Those that have jailbroken them know this. Why does apple deliberately cripple their devices?

Fuck Apple, is so many different ways. I wonder if these types of things will change after Steve is gone.
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Cakedaddy wrote:Fuck Apple, is so many different ways. I wonder if these types of things will change after Steve is gone.
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Called AT&T and asked why they have a video of the iphone doing picture texting in their stores when AT&T doesn't even support it. After some dumb answers and a few transfers, we got a $60 credit on our account. It's suppose to be available 'late summer'. If it goes past Sept, we'll call back and see what else they might do.
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Well, as it turns out, texting pictures, while available on the iphone, is not supported by AT&T. So, it can do it. . . just not on the ONLY carrier that you can use the phone with.


What? I text pictures all the time and have done so since November 2007. Really.

Also, the iphone can do so many things.


Yeah, but nothing revolutionary. That's the biggest knock on Apple. Nothing they do is revolutionary. It's all technology that exists in other places, they're just really, really good at combine said technology AND marketing it. I cannot tell you how many people believe the BS spewed forth in those "Hi I'm a Mac and I'm a PC" commercials.

Oh, you don't get viruses Mac? Well, the fat, ugly, buck toothed girl sitting alone at prom doesn't get VD because nobody wants to fuck her. And P.S., that doesn't make her the belle of the ball.

I wonder if these types of things will change after Steve is gone.


If history is any indication, Apple will start to die when Steve leaves.

I still find it hilarious that Apple wouldn't even in business anymore if Microsoft hadn't given them $150 million.
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The touch interface for the iPhone was pretty revolutionary relative to the big interfaces at the time (WinMo's ridiculous stylus, and BlackBerry's keyboard). The ease/convenience of downloading apps as well. sure, Winmo/BB each had apps, but nowhere near as easy to install/get.

The scroll wheel for the iPod was pretty revolutionary too.




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When I say 'they can do so much', I'm talking about the features that are disabled. If you jail break your iphone, you end up with full bluetooth support, back ground processing for multi tasking, etc. I can't bluetooth a picture to my wife's phone. If I jail break it, I can. So, my point is, the phone can do more. Apple turns it off. It's like having a V8 installed in your car, but the car company turns 2 cylinders off. So, the engine can do more. The company just doesn't want to let it because they make more money.

Again, I'm talking about the iphone when it comes to texting pictures. My palm could do it. My wife's phone can do it. You just can't, on AT&T's Network, if you have an iphone. Well, unless you jail break it.




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My WinMo can do it if you're really patient, and have a stylus.
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I never minded the stylus on my palm. I don't know if the new palm uses one. But either way, I SO wanted the new palm phone.
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TheCatt wrote:The touch interface for the iPhone was pretty revolutionary relative to the big interfaces at the time (WinMo's ridiculous stylus, and BlackBerry's keyboard). The ease/convenience of downloading apps as well. sure, Winmo/BB each had apps, but nowhere near as easy to install/get.

The scroll wheel for the iPod was pretty revolutionary too.
None of those techs were Apple creations, they were just polished and stuck together very well by Apple.

Hell, the iPod itself shouldn't even have been Apple's. Fortunately for them Real is run by morons.
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The Iphone will have picture and video message sending on Sept. 25th.

I'm sure it will crash that day since every iphone user will be told about it through a update and will be using it all at once.

Also it is just 3Gs(the newer one) user for some reason the old iphone still isn't capable.
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Did you know that AT&T is the only provider that can provide you with the ability to send a photo while you're talking on the phone? Apparently, they own the patent. Not sure if it covers video too.
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Update:

I bought my first game for my iphone. Real Racing by Firemint. REALLY good game. Lots of cars to unlock. Handful of tracks to unlock. Various types of races to do. Online vs. mode. Online leagues. Just lots and lots of features. Game play is AWESOME. I have not had as much fun playing a driving game since Gran Tourismo on our PS2. I've played a total of 3 racing games (including this one), so, not a lot of experience with them. But, it's really good. The graphics seem almost as good as the PSP, and driving is a blast. You accelerate by pressing the right side of the screen and brake on the left. You steer by tilting the phone like a steering wheel. I like driving in first person and it's cool watching the driver's arms steer the car as well as shift gears. I think that automatic transmission is the only option. Haven't dug far enough to know for sure. But, I've always played auto anyway. The only thing missing is a rear veiw mirror. I like the gauges as well as they are (so far) just like in the cars. They are small (small screen), but you get used to it and it's not hard to judge speed and stuff. The physics are pretty good in that you spin out and stuff. I've been in hard turns and knew I was pushing the "G" limit as far as sliding out of the turn. A slight tap on the brakes would send me off the track as my tires couldn't hold on from the outward force PLUS my trying to slow down. It does not collect damage on cars and affect performance.

The list goes on. Just WAY more than I expected from a PHONE game. It's on par with anything I've played on the PSP or DS. (Haven't played a ton of PSP/DS games, but still) Has made my phone a LOT more fun to have.

I've collected about 10 free games that I REALLY enjoy. Most of the ones I really like heavily involve the touching and tilting of the phone. It's a life saver during those down times when you need something to do. Like, waiting for, or on airplanes, etc.

So, games = awesome.

Business stuff. I've REALLY gotten used to having my email and am now hooked.

As far as multi-tasking. I know the iphone gets knocked for not being able to. The multi-tasking that I've learned how to do are:

Read email or browse the Internet while talking on the phone. I do that a fair amount. Someone I'm talking to needs info and I look it up while they are on speaker. HOWEVER, I do experience a higher rate of 'call failed' errors when doing this. Not enough to make me not do it. . . but, I definately lose more calls when doing this, or, shortly thereafter.
That's actually the only thing I can think of right now.

Multi-tasking it does not do is:
Return to my game if my phone rings. If I get a call in the middle of a game, my game is interupted. If I ignore or take the call, after the call, I'm returned to the 'home' page. Not to my game. However, some games do pause and when you go back to them, you can unpause and continue. On one game (Kids vs. Zombies), I was actively fighting the oncomming dead. I got a call and the caller ID/phone function took over. I took the call and restarted my zombie game (which is one that will pause). When it loaded up, it showed that I had died. So, while I was talking, the zombies kept coming and killed me. Implies that games can/do run in the background. But, you still have to restart them to play them. Can't just task switch back to them.

The ipone has the potential for so much more (if only Apple would let it). I still have issues with its bluetooth support. I don't like it's document support. You can't edit or even store anything. You can only read it as an attachment from email. My Palm phone had mini tiny versions of MS Office on it. I could read, create, edit pretty much anything. I THINK you can buy MS Office support for the iphone that lets you edit and stuff. Have not looked deeply into it. You can't (out of the box) store documents on it. My Palm phone was basically a flash drive that I could create folders, etc on. Iphone, not. I think there's an app that lets you do some document management because I remember reading about one that would do it via wifi. It would show up on your PC as a Networked drive. Haven't had an overwhelming need for it. Keeping emails is working well enough.

So, ya. I was pretty hesitant in buying this way back when. Right now, I'm pretty glad I did. Especially after getting this racing game ($4.99). I really hope the DROID stuff kicks the iphone's ass for a bit. Perhaps it will force Apple to open up some of its features (Like all the ones you get if you jailbreak it).

I'm not ready to say "Highly recommend, must have". But, I certainly don't regret buying it and can see myself staying on this platform over the years.
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That's getting forwarded to the token Apple polisher at work. Cheers.
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You can never convince a religious person there is no god, you can never convince some women that the abuser isn't worth it, and you will never convince an apple polisher that their product kind of sucks.
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So, according to the article, since I use the iphone, I'm delusional? Even though I say it's far from perfect? I dunno. Doesn't seem fair that I'm clumped into that group simply because I own one. I don't worship it. But, since games on my phone is more important to me than bluetooth support. . . I'm delusional? Bah. Whatever. In their next article, I wonder if they'll talk about how all black people are lazy and worthless thieves.
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Come in off the ledge, Cake. You're surrounded by people who pretend to like you,a nd this is a safe place.
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