Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 1:16 pm
What's all y'all's thoughts on this?
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iPhone - analogies of success (or lack thereof)
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 1:49 pm
$600 and a 2 year contract with AT&T = death
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 2:53 pm
I think it will be somewhere in between. It's a few years away from any sort of iPod like price, and therefore iPod like adoption (remember, the iPod in 2001 wasn't that great, and Apple's stock sucked into mid-2004).
When/if they can get the phone below $300, we'll see.
When/if they can get the phone below $300, we'll see.
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:30 pm
Let me just say that I am NOT a fan of Apple. I think the vast majority of their user base are arrogant jackasses and I think the iPod is a gimmick product that will be replaced sooner rather than later by more functional products (proof of that is the iPhone).
That being said, the iPhone is going to push the bar higher for all cell phones and in that sense, it will be a success.
The two negatives it has going for it is the initial price and the fact that it's an Apple product which means no support from Microsoft (IE: corporations can't really use it as a handheld).
Beyond that, it will piss off the other cell phone vendors and that's a great thing for consumers.
The iPhone is offering many features as typical rather than nickel and diming people to death with them like other vendors. For example, their fully functional map and driving directions feature is a $10/month charge from Verizon.
As for a slow start due to price...I don't know. I agree it's way too much money, but I've heard people say it's going to be impossible to get your hands on right away due to high sales. I think the rich will get it first and it'll slowly trickle down to other people as the price drops and as people begin to realize they'll save money on features.
Sales will really be helped if they can make it work with Exchange because then you open the door for all the corporate consumers to jump on board.
That being said, the iPhone is going to push the bar higher for all cell phones and in that sense, it will be a success.
The two negatives it has going for it is the initial price and the fact that it's an Apple product which means no support from Microsoft (IE: corporations can't really use it as a handheld).
Beyond that, it will piss off the other cell phone vendors and that's a great thing for consumers.
The iPhone is offering many features as typical rather than nickel and diming people to death with them like other vendors. For example, their fully functional map and driving directions feature is a $10/month charge from Verizon.
As for a slow start due to price...I don't know. I agree it's way too much money, but I've heard people say it's going to be impossible to get your hands on right away due to high sales. I think the rich will get it first and it'll slowly trickle down to other people as the price drops and as people begin to realize they'll save money on features.
Sales will really be helped if they can make it work with Exchange because then you open the door for all the corporate consumers to jump on board.
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:24 pm
Lack of battery life has just removed itself from the business user. Won't even last a workday at the office.
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:52 pm
Ditto to all prior posts
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 4:32 pm
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 10:31 am
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 10:54 am
I agree with some of these points, but when he got to "No Keyboard" he goes too far. That's the entire point of the iPhone, moving away from a set keyboard and to total touchscreen flexibility. If you list that as a bad thing, then obviously the iPhone was never intended for you at all.Malcolm wrote:Top ten reasons not to get an iPhone.
It reads like they guy just wants to have a regular cell phone and an MP3 player, since he craps all over the few inovations the iPhone actually has.
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 10:57 am
My boss threatened to buy me an iPhone.
I threatened to quit.
I threatened to quit.
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:00 am
Fuck that. Say, "yes," & eBay that sumbitch.TheCatt wrote:My boss threatened to buy me an iPhone.
I threatened to quit.
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:01 am
Come off it, Steve. The minimum data storage for the $499 iPhone should have been 500GB at the very least with the top of the line model having at least 800GB or preferably 1 terabyte.
Dude's just being a retard there.
But isn't that really the problem with all of Apple's products? They look pretty but provide very low value for the price?
If they weren't valuable, people wouldn't buy them. Retard strike 2.
One of the worst things that Apple ever did was to sign a five year exclusive agreement with AT&T to be the wireless provider for the iPhone.
Point.
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:14 am
Ehhhhhhh. That's like saying Jim Jones must have had a lot of good ideas since all those people drank the Flav-o-aid.TheCatt wrote:If they weren't valuable, people wouldn't buy them. Retard strike 2.But isn't that really the problem with all of Apple's products? They look pretty but provide very low value for the price?
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:24 am
Yeah, free markets are so inefficient. That must be why our economy sucks.GORDON wrote:Ehhhhhhh. That's like saying Jim Jones must have had a lot of good ideas since all those people drank the Flav-o-aid.TheCatt wrote:If they weren't valuable, people wouldn't buy them. Retard strike 2.But isn't that really the problem with all of Apple's products? They look pretty but provide very low value for the price?
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:58 am
I know what you were saying; I get the whole "it is worth what someone will pay for it."
I'm just saying apple fetishists are akin to a cult.
I'm just saying apple fetishists are akin to a cult.
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 12:25 pm
Well, Jim Jones had about 1000 members. Over 100 million iPods have been sold.
And I'm pretty sure my mom's not in a cult.
And I'm pretty sure my mom's not in a cult.
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 12:28 pm
Oh, is she an apple fetishist?
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 2:30 pm
Damn rule 34!GORDON wrote:Oh, is she an apple fetishist?
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 3:09 pm
But I wanted pics.
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 3:51 pm
Well, Jim Jones had about 1000 members. Over 100 million iPods have been sold.
And I'm pretty sure my mom's not in a cult.
Yeah, but she might not be a trend setter.
Apple has been brilliant in their marketing and that's been their whole plan from day one. They know their stuff has flaws and such, but they market it as if it's really, really cool. They make the word "iPod" mean "portable music player" rather than let the words "MP3 player" dominate their ads.
Nintendo did the same thing in the 90s and millions of people still call all video games "Nintendo."
The iPod has sold millions because:
-They are the name brand in the MP3 player market.
-Many customers have NO IDEA that other brands are available.
-Many consumers wouldn't understand if you told them you were selling them an MP3 player. They'd reply with "No, I want an iPod."
-They do break and get replaced.
-their technology gets updated and they get replaced (new hard drives, video options, etc.)
-Apple was smart in lining up third party vendors for the iPod. Their device has tons of optional add ons available while other brands don't.
You've got to give the devil his due, Apple sold the fuck out of the iPods.