I couldn't find the thread where I mentioned this before. I really don't give a crap about this amendment one way or another, but the sheer annoying bullshit that the pro-gay-marriage people are posting on facebook is just nauseating. Apparently if you vote for this amendment, you hate not only gays, but women and children, too. Oh, and the economy: our state wil no longer have jobs if you vote for this amendment.
Here are a couple of posts from my "friends":
I actually have peers planning to vote for amendment one. I really thought it would just be curmudgeons and country folk!
On May 8, rednecks and old people will vote to define North Carolina as a typical, bigoted, deep south state.
They're going a bit over the top, sure, but it is a very messy law as written. It even goes so far as to make it so that a same-sex married couple from another state cannot under this law be treated as married by any government agency or legal entity (including corporations) in NC. Don't expect many gay tourists, because if one of them ends up in the hospital it will be required by law that spouse be treated as no more than a friend and instead other family members will be the ones to make health care decisions, regardless of the wishes of the patient and his/her spouse.
The implications for visiting same-sex couples with adopted children can be even messier. While I doubt that any over-zealous CPS officer is likely to confiscate visiting children just because, since there is officially no marriage and the relationship they have is considered inappropriate for adoptive families in NC, technically they could. At a minimum they could make a whole legal mess for them if they wanted to. And again, it's not likely to be common or anything, but I for one prefer government agencies to have less power to screw with people at will rather than more.
It does specifically state that this law does not effect private contracts, however Wills and Powers of Attorney and other similar instruments are not legally contracts. They're a special class that will be voided by this law, regardless of the laws of the state in which they were written.
Mostly I find it funny that you can replace "same-sex" with "inter-racial" in any law or argument made against gay marriage, and suddenly it's like you are in the 1950s again. I have yet to see a single reason given to outlaw same-sex marriage that is not exactly like one given against inter-racial marriage back when it was still cool to be racist.
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I dunno, maybe the fact that there has never, ever, in the history of the world, been gay "marriage" makes it different. That is not the case for inter-racial marriage.
As for the scare tactic that gay couples won't come to the state...really? Ok, so what? What percentage of the population is that? 1% MAYBE?
I don't intend for it to be a scare tactic. Just analyzing the law and it's implications.
And there are records of plenty of gay marriages from ancient Greece and pre-Christian Rome. Also China. That's hardly "never ever in the history of the world". Not that I consider maintaining a bigoted status quo to be a reasonable argument on it's own.
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I wonder if they'll publish demographic data about who voted for/against. Because the thing that The Left hates to admit: Black people are anti-gay-marriage.
thibodeaux wrote:I wonder if they'll publish demographic data about who voted for/against. Because the thing that The Left hates to admit: Black people are anti-gay-marriage.
I think California's gay marriage thing was Prop 8, if I recall, and it lost big because of all the Catholic Mexicans in the state.
But again, shhhhhhh. Must only claim the red states hate the gays.
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
So, my new understanding is that gay marriage was already illegal in NC, but now there has just passed an amendment to the state constitution making gay marriage illegal, so absolutely nothing has changed regarding the status of gay marriage?
Is that right?
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thibodeaux wrote:HAHA! And of course the people of FB who hate bigotry, intolerance, and hate are the ones moaning about the awful toothless inbred rednecks.
GORDON wrote:So, my new understanding is that gay marriage was already illegal in NC, but now there has just passed an amendment to the state constitution making gay marriage illegal, so absolutely nothing has changed regarding the status of gay marriage?
Is that right?
As far as I know, yes. There's been a scare campaign that unwed couples and other such relationships could lose whatever legal/benefits status that they had, but I have no idea what the truth on that is.
I'm just curious about why Troy's 2 year old niece no longer has subsidized health care. Was there another Bill on the ballot denying subsidized health care for 2 year old girls?
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