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Alienvault

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:24 am
by Leisher
Anyone have any experience with this product?

I'm in training on deployment and configuration today and tomorrow. (Guy's doing marketing crap right now...)

Followed the lab a bit and I just logged onto AWS for the first time ever... I think I'm in Catt's world now.

Alienvault

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:32 am
by TheCatt
AWS is my world, but Alienvault is not. We outsource all the IT stuff.

Alienvault

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:11 am
by Leisher
Pretty interesting training, although most of it has been spent helping people log on and one group of three who don't seem to be able to do a single thing correctly without the instructor's help. I've been sitting here for 20 minutes now as he walks them through a lab.

Alienvault

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 10:41 am
by Leisher
In another two day online training session from home.

I really rip college students for being unprepared and lazy, but adults suck shit just as much.

Some of these other students are completely unprepared, aren't listening, can't follow simple instructions, and the lack of technical skills/knowledge in a fucking tech class is mind boggling.

Alienvault

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 10:51 am
by TheCatt
Leisher wrote: In another two day online training session from home.

I really rip college students for being unprepared and lazy, but adults suck shit just as much.

Some of these other students are completely unprepared, aren't listening, can't follow simple instructions, and the lack of technical skills/knowledge in a fucking tech class is mind boggling.
Why I stopped going to tech classes.

Alienvault

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:09 am
by Leisher
The current lab has us writing paragraphs about the incident we just made happen in our virtual lab. (We infected PCs with WannaCry.)

Guess what? I'm on spring break from college, and I'm not doing a writing assignment that doesn't get graded or even turned in.

Fucking busy work. How about teaching us something instead? Most SMBs aren't going to require reports be written in the event of an outbreak, and certainly not in this format. I'd rather do more exercises covering how to spot outbreaks.

Alienvault

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:23 am
by TheCatt
Leisher wrote: Most SMBs aren't going to require reports be written in the event of an outbreak,
Really? You don't do post incident reviews or retrospectives after events? I would argue most places with relevant CI processes do them.

Alienvault

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:41 am
by Leisher
Most don't have the staff for it. Hell, most don't have ticketing systems in place. (And that's really what we, as networking folks, would use.) We currently don't have one. I asked Cakedaddy for one he created way back in the day, but he doesn't have it anymore or something. My co-worker just finished a year long project creating a call reporting system in Access for one sales division, and I might have him now create one, but he won't be available until summer. I've shopped for them, but they're crazy overpriced.

And you'd shit yourself if you saw the number of businesses we deal with that still use fax as a primary means of communication.

Networking folks are much different than programmers. We're more like firemen. React, fix, move onto the next fire. Almost all of my reporting is verbal to the CFO (my direct boss), an email to certain department heads to give them a status, and if completely necessary, an email explaining what happened to the whole company. If I had a ticketing system I would throw the problem and fixes in there, but the only people that would have access would be IT. And who would I be writing a report for? Anyone outside of IT doesn't give a fuck. I'm the head of the department and I already know the details...

I also want to add a lot of SMBs don't have any IT folks on staff. No reports are being written there.

And if it makes you feel better, I have used this time to log onto my actual network to do things on the Alienvault software that I've learned in this class. :D

Alienvault

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:53 am
by Leisher
Update: Of the 20 folks in class, zero volunteered to share their written document so the instructor could review it to the class.

I'm guessing I wasn't alone in my thoughts.

One guy even typed in chat: I had no clue how you even got the information to do the report, so I didn't do it. I guess he didn't do the previous labs?