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Antifa

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:09 am
by Vince

Antifa

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:52 am
by GORDON
Talk about living in a target rich environment.

Woohoo vigilante justice.

Antifa

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:15 am
by Vince
Who wouldn't be proud to side with these guys?

Antifa

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:28 am
by GORDON
I think I heard that the Anti-Defamation League also says that disliking Antifa was officially a hate crime.

Antifa

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 9:26 am
by Leisher
GORDON wrote: I think I heard that the Anti-Defamation League also says that disliking Antifa was officially a hate crime.
That is correct, and thus, the ADL has zero credibility.

Not that they had any anyway. Their entire organization claims to be fighting hate, but their entire database is about white supremacism. Hard to be against bigotry and hate when your entire organization is about labeling one race as the problem.

Antifa

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 9:47 am
by TheCatt
GORDON wrote: I think I heard that the Anti-Defamation League also says that disliking Antifa was officially a hate crime.
That is not what they said.

Antifa

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 10:03 am
by GORDON
O ok

Antifa

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 10:18 am
by Leisher
This is from the ADL's "Who are antifa" article.
That said, it is important to reject attempts to claim equivalence between the antifa and the white supremacist groups they oppose. Antifa reject racism but use unacceptable tactics. White supremacists use even more extreme violence to spread their ideologies of hate, to intimidate ethnic minorities, and undermine democratic norms. Right-wing extremists have been one of the largest and most consistent sources of domestic terror incidents in the United States for many years; they have murdered hundreds of people in this country over the last ten years alone. To date, there have not been any known antifa-related murders.
Do you know what you call a group of people who immediately hate anyone with a differing viewpoint, use violence to squash other voices, use intimidation tactics like taking pictures or posting license plates online, etc? Seems to me like they should rename themselves to profa.

If you have to wear masks, you're doing something wrong.

Antifa

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 11:07 am
by TheCatt
Right, so Gordon’s statement is still incorrect.

Antifa

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 11:22 am
by GORDON
It is incorrect that I heard that? I must vehemently disagree.

Antifa

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 12:26 pm
by Leisher
TheCatt wrote: Right, so Gordon’s statement is still incorrect.
If the ADL had a single anti-white people logo, phrase, code, whatever I'd buy into them more, but as it stands, I just see a hate group pretending to be against hate.

Antifa

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 1:48 pm
by Vince
Volkswagens are a symbol of white supremacists.

Antifa

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:24 pm
by TheCatt
GORDON wrote:It is incorrect that I heard that? I must vehemently disagree.
Fine... The thing you heard is incorrect.

Antifa

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:34 pm
by GORDON
Word. I hadn't done any independent fact checking, so I didn't present it as fact so I couldn't be called on it.

Antifa

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:35 pm
by TheCatt
GORDON wrote: Word. I hadn't done any independent fact checking, so I didn't present it as fact so I couldn't be called on it.
OK, so we can all agree that Leisher's wrong, and he's probably who you heard it from.

Antifa

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:36 pm
by GORDON
What a prick.

But it may have been reddit. I read a lot of horseshit and lies yesterday, hard to keep the sources straight.

Antifa

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:05 pm
by Vince
The hate symbols page is what I think you were looking for.

Antifa

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 10:03 pm
by Leisher
Vince for the win. That's exactly the page I was looking for.

Antifa

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 8:29 am
by TheCatt
Leisher wrote: Vince for the win. That's exactly the page I was looking for.
It is, which, again, show's that Leisher is wrong.

Antifa

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 10:11 am
by Leisher
TheCatt wrote:
Leisher wrote: Vince for the win. That's exactly the page I was looking for.
It is, which, again, show's that Leisher is wrong.
Nope, and I'll happily die on this knowing there is no "smoking gun" to prove the point.

Those two pages are written very carefully to prevent damning antifa. Both include lots of verbiage that while antifa uses violence, they're heroes and fighting the good fight, while the people they oppose are truly the evil ones. Same mentality used by Muslims who celebrate events like 9/11 while condemning Al Qaeda publicly.