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Sometimes I wonder why Democrats have stupid positions. Like the border. I don't get it.
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ALmost posted a reddit threat yesterday.

Some republican woman was being mocked for supporting the separation of families at the border. The reality was it was for 72 hours and a DNA test to ensure it wasn't trafficing, but was misrepresented as, just, caging children because that is their kink.

The comments, over a hundred, hyperbolic calls to end the threat of the scum of the earth, perverted republicans. How there is no organization in the history of human civilization as evil as they are.

I was going to post it as an example of "this must be 90% paid operatives."

I seriously would love to see the budget for online, bulletin board propaganda for all sides.
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TheCatt wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2024 1:17 pm Sometimes I wonder why Democrats have stupid positions. Like the border. I don't get it.
I have heard the conspiracy theories: Votes, to help with redistricting, filling the military, (etc., but yeah I don't get it either. Especially since so many Hispanics are voting R now. It doesn't take a political scientist to see that most Hispanic cultures match the political right in this country.

If you go back to 2007 when Biden was VP you can find all kids of speeches and interviews where he says the exact opposite of his current immigration policies.

Plus, it's so insanely unpopular with voters. Makes no sense.
GORDON wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2024 1:31 pm I seriously would love to see the budget for online, bulletin board propaganda for all sides.
I don't think it'd be as big as you think.

Some of their core supporters (D and R) are so vested that they actively spread this stuff and convince themselves everything they make up is legit and their actions are just.
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Leisher wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2024 1:51 pm Some of their core supporters (D and R) are so vested that they actively spread this stuff and convince themselves everything they make up is legit and their actions are just.
This is my perception as well.

Also, a lot of people are fucking morons. For free. I try to stick to finance forums on reddit, but even there, I'm exposed to the stupidity at times.
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People are generally starved for purpose (why is a whole other topic) and when they find something to dig their claws into, they make it their entire personality. Point being, they can't discuss anything without bringing their shit into it.

Had a conversation with someone the other day when I started it by bringing up something so trivial that I cannot even remember what it was now. Within 40 seconds I was hearing, from a very loud angry voice, how ________ has fucked everything up and it's their fault the world is the way it is and how they should step aside and let __________ take over.

People who do this are not stable, but they are on the internet, particularly reddit. They were on FB, but their families have told them to shut the fuck up.
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TheCatt wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2024 1:17 pm Sometimes I wonder why Democrats have stupid positions. Like the border. I don't get it.
Because they have to. If Republicans are against it, Democrats must be for it. That law goes both ways. Since the Republicans are against people coming into the country illegally, Democrats must be for it.
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Why is Frankenstein the voice of reason in Congress? No other Senator has shown more common sense than him during the past year or so. (Which totally fits the conspiracy theory that he's been replaced...no seriously, it's a real theory.)

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Maybe it would help to illustrate that America has a way looser border policy than all of their worshipped socialist countries.
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Maybe he should replace Biden.
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TheCatt wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 5:35 pm Maybe he should replace Biden.
Dead serious, I'd take President Fetterman over Biden-Trump 2.
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Leisher wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 5:45 pm
TheCatt wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 5:35 pm Maybe he should replace Biden.
Dead serious, I'd take President Fetterman over Biden-Trump 2.
I would, too.
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I wonder if the bussing of illegals to places like NY has had an unintended effect? It's just interesting that Biden is backtracking at the same time Dimon is saying this sort of thing. I wonder if Biden was swayed both by polls and large donors? It's really easy to preach about something when it's hundreds of miles away, but when it shows up on your doorstep...
Plsu, this woman just testified to Congress about her daughter's rape and murder being a direct result of Biden's immigration policy.

She's not wrong. People with easily identifiable gang tats needs to be sent back, not released into the country. Hell, put them on a boat and while you're out there put two in the back of their heads and call it a day.

I've heard she has now filed suit against the gov and Biden for $100M, but don't trust the source that appeared in the Google search.
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Years ago I told the story here of a local school teacher that was killed by a drunk illegal in a car, and asked everyone how many deaths to illegals do they think is allowable, until we needed to get serious about the border, and who was willing to go to the funeral and tell the family "sorry, but her murder is still under the threshold of what's unacceptable."

I don't think anyone would answer.

I guess I should have taken my question before congress.
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Pretty cliché, but still on point.

They're fine with the illegals affecting our neighborhoods and lives, but wouldn't stand for it in their neighborhoods.
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Leisher wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2024 2:34 pm They're fine with the illegals affecting our neighborhoods and lives, but wouldn't stand for it in their neighborhoods.
At the end of the day, almost everyone's a NIMBY.
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TheCatt wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2024 3:19 pm
Leisher wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2024 2:34 pm They're fine with the illegals affecting our neighborhoods and lives, but wouldn't stand for it in their neighborhoods.
At the end of the day, almost everyone's a NIMBY.
Agreed. The problem is that their short term thinking doesn't let them realize that this isn't something static that will only affect other people's backyards.
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House Rs are probably going to impeach Mayorkas, and it'd be hard to argue they're wrong to do so.

The border is his responsibility.

However, it's expected the Ds in the Senate won't do the same. WHY? Like R strategists, the D strategists are morons.

Biden is considered a complete failure on the border issue.

The Rs are giving you a scapegoat. Let them do their dog and pony show, then pile on and boot him out of office. At the same time, have Biden change his policies at the border. Now you can claim he's taken direct control and things are getting better. Rs won't buy it, but your base and some I voters will.

By the way, I think in that article or in an opinion piece I saw the claim is made that the Biden administration has deported more illegals in 3 years than Trump did in 4. Selective statistics. It's easy to throw more people out when you're letting more in...
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Trump caged children though.
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GORDON wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 9:46 am Trump caged children though.
Biden's admin has caged far, far more, but he's in the party that's allowed to, so no AOC photo ops at the border now!
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I need to go there and openly weep for the cameras.

Then get some killer texmex.
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