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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:55 pm
by GORDON
What? IS switching parties a thing he is saying?

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Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 7:11 am
by Vince
GORDON wrote: What? IS switching parties a thing he is saying?
He's not saying it, but he's saying he wants to make more deals with the Democrats. Which I'd be okay with if he had actually made a deal with them. He just gave them what they asked for in their opening bid on the negotiations. He asked for nothing in return. And he's positively giddy about all the positive press he's getting from it. And that's what scares me. He has no foundational beliefs other than in his own aggrandizement. For all his talk about "fake news" of the press, he is the jilted lover that talks ugly about the old boyfriend that she secretly still pines for.

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Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 7:01 pm
by Malcolm
Glowing report about Drumpf's foreign policy.
The Senate Appropriations Committee tore into the Drumpf administration's approach to foreign policy in a new report, criticizing the White House's proposed State Department budget as reflective of an "apparent doctrine of retreat" abroad.
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Secretary of State Rex Tillerson has defended the proposed cuts to the State Department.

"It is an unmistakable restatement of the needs the country faces and the priorities we must establish," Tillerson said in a letter to the department's 75,000 employees in March. "It acknowledges that U.S. engagement must be more efficient, that our aid be more effective, and that advocating the national interests of our country always be our primary mission."
Yep, like paying for that stupid fucking wall.

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Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 9:59 pm
by GORDON
I don't have a problem with shrinking the size of the federal government. Everyone should assume the state department is bloated. It's a good start, keep going.

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Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 11:08 pm
by Malcolm
GORDON wrote: I don't have a problem with shrinking the size of the federal government.
Let's start with the TSA and follow it up with the whole (or hole) of the DHS.

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Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 11:16 pm
by GORDON
I don't care where they start as long as they don't miss anything.

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Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 11:37 pm
by Malcolm
I think the Secret Service should be next.

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Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 11:52 pm
by GORDON
Pretty sure they still cover former secretaries of state. Start there.

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Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 11:54 pm
by Malcolm
GORDON wrote: Pretty sure they still cover former secretaries of state. Start there.
The wrath of the people when a public servant gets out of office after doing a shitty job is one of the natural checks and balances of democracy.

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Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:03 pm
by Leisher

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Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:33 pm
by TheCatt
I do not understand the basis on which they are suing?

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Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:34 pm
by GORDON
Hillary won the popular vote, that's why.

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Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:48 pm
by Leisher
TheCatt wrote: I do not understand the basis on which they are suing?
I don't get it either. I think it's just political posturing for votes and to appease their base.

Clearly on party lines too as other blue states are also suing, while red states had been suing to eliminate it.

End of the day, I just do not understand the logic of the argument for illegal immigration versus legal immigration.

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Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:23 pm
by Malcolm
Legal immigration is run with the same degree of sloth and incompetence as the rest of the gov't. I can't really blame some people for losing patience.

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Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 6:21 am
by Vince
TheCatt wrote:
I do not understand the basis on which they are suing?
I don't think this will be hard since the SCOTUS already said that immigration is the perview of the federal government rather than the states (US vs AZ). But with the way the lower courts have been lately, nothing would surprise me.

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Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:46 am
by Leisher
Malcolm wrote: Legal immigration is run with the same degree of sloth and incompetence as the rest of the gov't. I can't really blame some people for losing patience.
Like the looters in Florida. The stores were just too slow to reopen, so they're justified to break the law.
Vince wrote: I don't think this will be hard since the SCOTUS already said that immigration is the perview of the federal government rather than the states (US vs AZ). But with the way the lower courts have been lately, nothing would surprise me.
Here's what will happen: Lower courts with Dem judges will rule the government has no right to do end DACA even though the government put DACA into place. Then the higher courts will rule the opposite and millions of dollars will have been wasted.

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Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 10:12 am
by Leisher
Miss Texas "bashed" Trump, so the MSM is jerking each other off over it.

Hey, remember the last 8 years of the MSM shitting on the pageant and participants? Remember how we mocked them mercifully, and reporters did exposes about how dumb they were?

I guess when they say something you agree with they become legit and everyone involved is a rocket scientist.

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Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 2:22 pm
by Vince
I'm tired of the winning now. Not sure that Pelosi and Schumer are yet, though.

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Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 9:00 am
by Leisher
Stop me if you've heard this before...

Trump tweets something and people are mad.

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Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:20 am
by GORDON
Now he's just trying to improve his polling numbers by making people who hate him have fatal hissy fits.