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TheCatt wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 2:53 pm Slightly more confederate flags fly in SC.

Still fewer than Ohio.

I'd argue a little, but I wouldn't bet more than a dollar.

I remember seeing a home-made statue of Robert E. Lee in front of a shack in SC, once.

Well, there were certainly more in Ohio (and honestly, most of the NE, too) than I expected, once things got rural. I remember seeing a few in Canada of all places.

There's a couple within 150 yards of where i live.

GORDON wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 3:30 pm There's a couple within 150 yards of where i live.

None within 500 yards of where I live. But I live in suburbs.

There's even one about a mile away in my mostly liberal hood. I think he took it down because things were happening to his property though. He def had it up last year during elections.

I see them a lot in Michigan. Still a lot of Trump yard signs and flags too.

Would have to know which state the trolley is leaving.

I've been formulating a theory that if the worst-case scenario of global warming happens, Ohio is going to have to build a wall to keep fuckers out who have been mocking Ohio/flyover states for a hundred years.

Drown, bitches.

GORDON wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 10:38 am I've been formulating a theory that if the worst-case scenario of global warming happens, Ohio is going to have to build a wall to keep fuckers out who have been mocking Ohio/flyover states for a hundred years.

Drown, bitches.

I was googling worst case maps (I'll be beachfront!), and found this:

Which is fucking hilarious, cuz some # of people thought it was real.

But I don't want to be Turkey.

The weather would be great. Seriously. An Inland sea like that would moderate the temp in the Mid West + North like crazy. Everyone gets to own a winery!

Ohio has wineries, the north part of the state is same latitude as french wine country.

Ohio legislation to promote both sides of Holocaust being taught

"You should talk about these atrocities that have happened in history, but you also do have an obligation to point out the value that each individual brings to the table," Fowler Arthur said.
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"Maybe you're listening to it from the perspective of a Jewish person that has gone through the tragedies that took place," Fowler Arthur continued. "And maybe you listen to it from the perspective of a German soldier."

This will be unpopular, but I think I'm fine with both sides being taught.

First of all, at least they're not acknowledging Holocaust deniers.

Secondly, the opponents of this lost me right here:

"There are moments in our history where there are not two sides to debate," said James Pasch, regional director of the Anti-Defamation League. "There is a right side and a wrong side."

"In the case of the Holocaust, we're talking about state-sponsored mass murder," ​Dahlia Fisher with the Maltz Museum, said.

No, there is no debate about the morality of the event, but there certainly MUST be discussion. I think it's extremely dangerous to just label Germans as "evil" and call it a day. We should explain how Hitler and the Nazi party were able to take over Germany with words. Not all soldiers in the German army were Nazis. We need students to see how blaming a select group of people for the entire country's problems led to mass murder(Nazis blamed Jews for losing WWI and the state of the economy.). You're not going to prevent a second Holocaust by simply saying "This was bad and should never happen again". You need to show how a society got to a point where it made sense.

Our country is currently filled with hate speech pretending to be "the right thing" and it has crippled discussion. We have a specific group of people that are being blamed for everything. There are efforts to disarm everyone.

Critical thinking is super, super important and needs to be taught. We need to stop teaching only extremes and teach "how" and "why".

What's the "other side?"

1. Spend a couple hours teaching about what happened.

2. Counterpoint: "Everything that guy just said is bullshit."

But...why?

Leisher wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 5:18 pmBut...why?

I mean, why not?