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Postby Leisher » Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:13 pm

Coaches poll is out.

LSU at 1, OSU at 2, Clemson at 3...ok, no problem so far.

Bama at 4. PSU at 11. What the actual fuck? The SEC bias is a legit thing.

Bama is a 7 point favorite at home, loses to an undefeated team by 5, gives up 46 points, and drops 3 spots.
PSU is a 6 point favorite on the road, loses to an undefeated team by 5, gives up 31 points, and drops 6 spots.
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Postby Leisher » Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:24 pm

The Rutgers folks at Barstool have a sense of humor.

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Postby TheCatt » Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:28 pm

Leisher wrote:Source of the post Bama is a 7 point favorite at home, loses to an undefeated team by 5, gives up 46 points, and drops 3 spots.
PSU is a 6 point favorite on the road, loses to an undefeated team by 5, gives up 31 points, and drops 6 spots.

LSU is good, Minnesota is super suspect for 9-0.
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Postby Leisher » Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:43 pm

TheCatt wrote:Source of the post LSU is good, Minnesota is super suspect for 9-0.


LSU barely beat Texas. Because everyone in the SEC plays FCS schools, it's hard to judge if they're any good or not.

This is why equal schedules need to happen, so voters can get a better sense of what's a good win, and what isn't.

But yeah, if Minnesota goes undefeated I'll be stunned.
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Postby TheCatt » Sun Nov 10, 2019 5:36 pm

Leisher wrote:Source of the post LSU barely beat Texas.

Texas isn't bad. Certainly better than Illinois.

Leisher wrote:Source of the post Bama at 4.

Well, hope that UGA runs the table. Then LSU + UGA will be in, with Bama out :)
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Postby Leisher » Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:54 pm

TheCatt wrote:Source of the post Texas isn't bad. Certainly better than Illinois.


I'm not sure about that. Maryland beat Texas the last two years. Also, Illinois not only beat Wisconsin, but they just beat MSU in MSU. They're legit having their best season in years.

TheCatt wrote:Source of the post Well, hope that UGA runs the table. Then LSU + UGA will be in, with Bama out


Honestly, I kind of want Bama to get put in and then get housed by any other team.
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Postby Leisher » Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:02 pm



Also, OSU opened as 50.5 point favorites against Rutgers and the line has already been pushed to 54. WTF!?
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Postby TheCatt » Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:32 am

Leisher wrote:Source of the post Also, Illinois not only beat Wisconsin, but they just beat MSU in MSU.

That game was a disaster. MSU jumped up big, then just fucking blew it. We watched parts of the first half only.

Two games seems fair.

Leisher wrote:Source of the post Also, OSU opened as 50.5 point favorites against Rutgers and the line has already been pushed to 54. WTF!?

Well, when you play JuCo teams...
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Postby Leisher » Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:51 am

TheCatt wrote:Source of the post Well, when you play JuCo teams...


I don't remember them playing UNC?

You can tease about schedule all you want, but it doesn't carry enough weight to bait me. OSU's opponent winning percentage is third best in the nation. Bama's is the third worst. OSU's SOS is 34th, every other undefeated team's is worse. (I honestly don't understand how LSU's is...maybe they've finally passed OSU?)
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Postby TheCatt » Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:58 am

Leisher wrote:Source of the post
TheCatt wrote:Source of the post Well, when you play JuCo teams...


I don't remember them playing UNC?

You can tease about schedule all you want, but it doesn't carry enough weight to bait me. OSU's opponent winning percentage is third best in the nation. Bama's is the third worst. OSU's SOS is 34th, every other undefeated team's is worse. (I honestly don't understand how LSU's is...maybe they've finally passed OSU?)

As long as there are.. what, 130 teams, we're going to have 1-5 great teams, 10-20 very good teams, 20 decent teams and a bunch of fluff. Everyone plays a bunch of fluff.

I'm not arguing OSU played a terrible schedule at the moment. I'm just saying: Back to Rutgers, though... they're abysmal.
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Postby Leisher » Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:13 am

Rutgers is exceptionally bad. Jim Delaney brought them into the B1G for East Coast exposure, but so far they're just an embarrassment.
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Postby TheCatt » Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:44 pm

UNC up to #6 in the AP poll this week. I have a hard time buying that. Anthony is awesome, but there's not a whole lot behind him, and we have 5 injured players. Our 3 + 4 star recruits are both injured, one of our 2 5-star recruits got injured in the 2nd game. Two players expected to get a bunch of time/start are injured.

The next couple of games are easy, but then we have Battle for Atlantis (Michigan + #8 Gonzaga if we win), OSU #14, and #9 Virginia. Oooph.
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Postby Leisher » Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:11 am

TheCatt wrote:Source of the post but then we have Battle for Atlantis (Michigan + #8 Gonzaga if we win), OSU #14, and #9 Virginia. Oooph.


Tough schedule.

The Buckeyes are heading to some event soon where I don't anticipate they'll be winning a ton of games...
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Postby Leisher » Tue Nov 12, 2019 11:41 am

OSU plays Villanova tomorrow night. We'll find out pretty quick if this team is any good or not.
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Postby TheCatt » Tue Nov 12, 2019 11:44 am

Leisher wrote:Source of the post OSU plays Villanova tomorrow night. We'll find out pretty quick if this team is any good or not.

Nova, UNC, Kentucky all before the New Year. I like aggressive scheduling, but.. damn...
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Postby TheCatt » Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:29 pm

TheCatt wrote:Source of the post
Leisher wrote:Source of the post No, but seriously, what the fuck is LSU's coaching staff doing?

That terrible D on the 85 yd TD... oof.

So 1/2 OSU/LSU
3 - Clemson (assuming they beat NCSU)
4 - Georiga?
5 - Bama :)

Committee agrees with me.

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Postby TheCatt » Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:22 pm

Oh, my, Kentucky
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Postby Leisher » Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:06 pm

Saw someone post that Minnesota has a better win than everyone above them except LSU. That's not wrong.

Georgia at #4 is ridiculous. They are clearly pretenders who lost to a 4-6 team at home.

Bama still has zero wins against ranked teams, the third worst OWP, just gave up 50 at home, and their SOS is somewhere in the 50s.

The SEC bias is legit.

I have no problem with LSU at 1. I do think OSU, Clemson should be 2/3. After that, it should be Oregon, Utah, Oklahoma, Baylor, and Minnesota in no specific order. I guess you can throw Georgia in there too since they still have a shot at the SEC championship. However, Bama should NOT be in the discussion anymore. They might play a ranked team in Auburn, but that's it. They have no shot at winning their division or conference.

And Kentucky...who saw that coming?
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Postby Leisher » Tue Nov 12, 2019 11:56 pm

Interesting breakdown of stats.

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Postby TheCatt » Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:39 am

Leisher wrote:Source of the post Saw someone post that Minnesota has a better win than everyone above them except LSU. That's not wrong

That's why we don't judge teams based on one game.

Leisher wrote:Source of the post I have no problem with LSU at 1. I do think OSU, Clemson should be 2/3.

I'd prefer OSU at #1, cuz I'd rater have Clemson play LSU than OSU :
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