DC Comics and Warner Brothers (their parent corp) took notice of The Avengers, and starting with Superman will begin building its own way towards a Justice League movie.
This should be interesting to watch.
The core characters are:
Superman - New movie on the way
Batman - Apparently, once Dark Knight Rises is out of theaters, they're recast Batman and start over.
Wonder Woman - movie limbo
Green Lantern - considered a flop, but sequel in the works.
Flash - rumors
Aquaman - PLEASE!
They could also add:
Green Arrow - Hawkeye except he wears green and is a massive liberal.
Martian Manhunter - Mars' Superman
Cyborg - Think black Iron Man, except not smart, cool, or rich.
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 12:32 pm
by thibodeaux
Leisher wrote:Cyborg - Think black Iron Man, except not smart, cool, or rich.
Racist!
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 1:18 pm
by Leisher
thibodeaux wrote:
Leisher wrote:Cyborg - Think black Iron Man, except not smart, cool, or rich.
Racist!
I didn't create him! DC Comics is to blame!
True story though, he's a boring ass character that they're trying to put on the main stage with the Justice League because the rest are all a bunch of crackers...except Martian Manhunter, who is green.
So Cyborg was a college football player whose dad was a genius scientist. Things go wrong in an experiment, and somehow his kid becomes Cyborg. He's filled with teen angst, isn't smart like his dad (although his computer side is "smart"), he isn't rich, and he's lame (Marvel has almost exactly the same character, and he's lame too).
DC also recently changed "The Atom", who is a Justice League regular, into an Asian guy.
Off the top of my head, the black guys in DC are:
-Cyborg
-one of the guys that made up the new Firestorm (old one was white
-Black Manta (an originally named Aquaman villain)
-Some electric powered guy whose book just got cancelled
-There's a new Batman protege named Batwing or something
And I think that's it. DC has a RIDICULOUS amount of characters, and they all have 10 different versions of each, and that's all the brothers I can name.
Meanwhile over at Marvel:
-Luke Cage
-Ultimate Spider-Man
-War Machine
-Marvel's Cyborg
-Nick Fury
-Storm
-Black Panther
-the black Captain America youth in the Young Avengers
-Goliath
-the new Goliath
-Misty whatever her last name is...
-about a hundred X-Men and X-Men villains
-That scientist guy on the Thunderbolts
-etc.
They also have a metric fuck ton of Asian characters.
Mervel is kicking DC's ass in diversity.
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 1:31 pm
by thibodeaux
Nick Fury is not black. I don't care what anybody says.
And wait...SPIDER MAN? Did you say Spider Man is black? WTF?
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 1:53 pm
by Leisher
A lot of this is just from keeping up with the industry. I haven't actually read any of what I'm about to describe, except for a few of the Ultimate X-Men trades. So I apologize if I get some details wrong, but I'm 99% sure this will be pretty accurate.
Nick Fury is not black. I don't care what anybody says.
Marvel has two universes now.
The 616 is the original Marvel universe, and the one that "counts".
The Ultimate universe is new, and while it features the same characters, the rules there are different. For example, if you die there, you're dead. End of story. Folks who are dead there include: Wolverine, Peter Parker, Professor X, Magneto, Cyclops, etc.
In the Ultimate universe the creators were asked to remake Marvel with new concepts, but the same basic characters and origins. So things are the same, but not. The main villain in the Ultimate universe is Reed Richards (Mr. Fantastic from the Fantastic Four).
The Ultimate universe is brutal and very adult. I highly recommend the Ultimates TPB. In the 616, Ant-Man once slapped the Wasp (they were married), and it was a huge deal. That's spousal abuse, and blah, blah, blah. In the Ultimate universe, they re-did that scene only he beat her, sprayed her with bug spray, and then called in his ant hordes to rip her apart while she was still the size of a wasp.
Their Nick Fury is a black guy who was purposely drawn to look like Sam Jackson before the movies even started being made. It was the artist's choice.
Recently, Marvel ran a series in the 616 universe where it was revealed that Nick Fury, the white one, was dying, and he had a lvoe child nobody knew of that was black. During the storyline, the kid, who was simply an Army Ranger, lost the same eye as Nick, and became head of SHIELD, the world's peacekeeping force. Did I mention his name was Marcus Johnson, and for no reason he changed it to Nick Fury? Apparently nepotism is the primary criteria in good security. Did I also mention that his best friend was also a ranger and he becomes Agent Coulston?
The series was a complete flop, but Marvel felt it was necessary to not confuse the new readers coming in due to the movies.
And wait...SPIDER MAN? Did you say Spider Man is black? WTF?
Again, in the Ultimate universe, Peter Parker dies fighting the Green Goblin. This was after 100+ issues of what many call the best Spider-Man books ever. All are written by Brian Michael Bendis, one of the best writers going, and he's got some racially mixed kids.
When Peter Parker dies, he inspires Miles Morales, a half black, half Hispanic kid to become the new Spider-Man.
But don't worry you big racist, plain old whitebread Peter Parker is still Spider-Man where it counts in the 616.
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 3:22 pm
by thibodeaux
Leisher wrote:When Peter Parker dies, he inspires Miles Morales, a half black, half Hispanic kid to become the new Spider-Man.
So, all it takes is "inspiration" to become Spider Man?
These people are insane.
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 3:29 pm
by Leisher
I don't know the details, I just know that's the new "Ultimate universe" Spider-Man. The 616 version is still Peter as stated.
I believe I heard Miles got his powers in a similar accident. Not sure on that though...just looked it up, and yes, he was also bitten by a radioactive spider.
In oddly related news, Spidey is about to get a sidekick named Alpha who has a similar accident, but not a spider bite. Also, issue #700 is coming up, and they're claiming something big. The writer says he'll be in hiding for a few months. Maybe they'll pull a "Knightfall" and sideline Spider-Man for a while so Alpha can be the star of the book.
(Knightfall was when Bane broke Batman's back, and Bruce Wayne was not the star of the Batman books while he healed.)
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 11:05 pm
by GORDON
Leisher wrote:In oddly related news, Spidey is about to get a sidekick named Alpha who has a similar accident, but not a spider bite.
Although, as the article points out, truths are routinely claimed to be false in Hollywood. Plus, there was a lot of talk after TDKR that he'd take over the cowl.
