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Leisher wrote:
I'm betting one of those two dudes keeps way, way, way better notes and proof of what he did, said, and heard.
The guy who said, "I hope there are tapes"?
Then I hope someone besides the orange dickhead made some.
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Johnny Depp jokes about killing Trump.

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Would be funny if he were no longer allowed in the country as a security risk.
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What would be hilarious is if Bruce Willis made the exact same joke about whoever the next Democratic president is, and then after the MSM crucifies him he can point out that all he did was repeat Depp word for word to point out bias in the media.
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I agree. I would point and laugh at everyone involved and then me and Bruce would to out at get a beer.
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In Johnny's defense, he was probably on several things. Then again, Bruce could also tweet after a few shots of Jack.
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Should Depp be punished for making a joke about killing the President, or for making a joke of what once had hope of a promising career?
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Vince wrote: Should Depp be punished for making a joke about killing the President, or for making a joke of what once had hope of a promising career?
Aside from out of control spending, I think Depp and his career have done just fine.

The MSM is pissed Trump didn't honor the "decades old tradition" of a Ramadan dinner.

I have no issue with him ending it. Why should a Christian or whatever he is celebrate a different religion? What about the separation of church and state?
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I saw that all over facebook... I wanted to respond, "OMG Trump didn't celebrate a religion he doesn't follow just like two of the previous presidents before him." Because, you know, "a nearly two decade old tradition" makes it sound more dramatic.

But I stayed out of it because fuck everyone. It aint my job to educate people.
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Leisher wrote: I have no issue with him ending it. Why should a Christian or whatever he is celebrate a different religion? What about the separation of church and state?
1 - "Christian"
2 - Because he's not a Christian, America is not a Christian Nation, and why not celebrate and represent all of the people in America? Celebrate Ramadan, Passover, whatever. Tokens of representation of America, and not just himself.
3 - Completely irrelevant.
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TheCatt wrote: why not celebrate and represent all of the people in America? Celebrate Ramadan, Passover, whatever. Tokens of representation of America, and not just himself.
Do you know how many religions there are? Where does the line get drawn on exclusion? How about all the atheists you're offending?
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Leisher wrote: Aside from out of control spending, I think Depp and his career have done just fine.

The MSM is pissed Trump didn't honor the "decades old tradition" of a Ramadan dinner.

I have no issue with him ending it. Why should a Christian or whatever he is celebrate a different religion? What about the separation of church and state?
He's made a lot of money, I won't deny. Aside from the first Pirates movie, name a really good movie he's done in this century.

Trump acknowledged the holiday. I'm fine with him not celebrating it. I am looking forward to all these Christian hating atheists blowing a gasket when the first open atheist President doesn't celebrate Christian holidays because he has to be inclusive.
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Vince wrote: I am looking forward to all these Christian hating atheists blowing a gasket when the first open atheist President doesn't celebrate Christian holidays because he has to be inclusive.
Wouldn't they be happy about that?
Vince wrote: He's made a lot of money, I won't deny. Aside from the first Pirates movie, name a really good movie he's done in this century.
-Black Mass was well received.
-Ditto for Mortdecai although it bombed.
-Into the Woods was huge.
-Yoga Hosiers was shockingly not terrible and combined with Tusk show that he's a good friend and dad.
-He did a cameo in 21 Jump Street.
-To be fair, he's the only reason the Pirate movies are bearable. Scripts aren't his fault.
-Rango did well.
-I hear good things about The Tourist
-He did a great job as the Mad Hatter and Willy Wonka in Tim Burton's vision, it's just that Burton's vision sucks.
-People liked Blow and Chocolat
-He did Family Guy and King of the Hill

That's 2000 to present and I didn't include his future films, although Murder on the Orient Express looks good.
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Saudi Arabian travelers are still a-ok, for some fucking reason.
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Leisher wrote:
TheCatt wrote: why not celebrate and represent all of the people in America? Celebrate Ramadan, Passover, whatever. Tokens of representation of America, and not just himself.
Do you know how many religions there are? Where does the line get drawn on exclusion? How about all the atheists you're offending?
Fuck atheists. They're celebrated the other 360 days of the year.

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The National Review has really been hating on Drumpf lately. Here's one guy's take on how this doesn't help in the long run.
In order to defend the emperor from the claims of anti-Muslim bias, the administration has argued that the travel-ban orders have nothing to do with Islam. Thus, the administration has been lured into supporting, at least tacitly, the proposition that restrictions on alien admissions would be constitutionally invalid if they took Islam into account.

Yet, without taking Islam into account — i.e., without sorting anti-American sharia supremacists from pro-American Muslims supportive of the Constitution — there is no way to restrict the entry of Muslims who would increase the threat of jihadism and undermine our society. That is, if we cannot vet for sharia supremacism, there is little point in what Trump calls “extreme vetting.”
That's a semi-interesting point.
Have you watched Grand Inquisitor Drumpf’s recent canoodling with the Saudis? Have you noticed the Drumpf State Department’s intervention on behalf of terror-supporting Qatar and reluctance to crack down on the Muslim Brotherhood? I have, and it bolsters my long-held suspicion that, when push comes to shove, the Drumpf administration does not really grasp what “radical Islam” is and would have no stomach for a battle over factoring sharia-supremacist ideology into account when vetting aliens who seek to enter our country.
Burn.

Oh, and this.
The practical effect of this is that activists for aliens whose travel has been restricted will now file new lawsuits challenging Drumpf’s order. They will argue that their “bona fide relationships” with American persons qualify. Worse, as Justice Thomas points out, the new lawsuits will surely feature the same forum-shopping shenanigans we have already seen, with new claims perhaps “directed to the two District Courts whose initial orders in these cases this Court has now — unanimously — found sufficiently questionable to be stayed as to the vast majority of the people potentially affected.”
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Leisher wrote:
Vince wrote: I am looking forward to all these Christian hating atheists blowing a gasket when the first open atheist President doesn't celebrate Christian holidays because he has to be inclusive.
Wouldn't they be happy about that?
Vince wrote: He's made a lot of money, I won't deny. Aside from the first Pirates movie, name a really good movie he's done in this century.
-Black Mass was well received.
-Ditto for Mortdecai although it bombed.
-Into the Woods was huge.
-Yoga Hosiers was shockingly not terrible and combined with Tusk show that he's a good friend and dad.
-He did a cameo in 21 Jump Street.
-To be fair, he's the only reason the Pirate movies are bearable. Scripts aren't his fault.
-Rango did well.
-I hear good things about The Tourist
-He did a great job as the Mad Hatter and Willy Wonka in Tim Burton's vision, it's just that Burton's vision sucks.
-People liked Blow and Chocolat
-He did Family Guy and King of the Hill

That's 2000 to present and I didn't include his future films, although Murder on the Orient Express looks good.
I don't count voice acting as acting really. I mean it is, but you don't become a leading man for voice acting. Into The Woods was God awful to me. That was the only non-animated one from the list I'd seen. I will agree that Orient Express looks good. He's made some serious bombs in the last 15 years or so. Why'd you leave out The Lone Ranger? ;-)
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It was pretty apparent to me that stopping it was judicial overreach.
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GORDON wrote: I saw that all over facebook... I wanted to respond, "OMG Trump didn't celebrate a religion he doesn't follow just like two of the previous presidents before him." Because, you know, "a nearly two decade old tradition" makes it sound more dramatic.

But I stayed out of it because fuck everyone. It aint my job to educate people.
This says two centuries. Which is it?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 06836.html
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