Or, chooses to not allow more jobs to be created in America, I guess would be more accurate.
Obama didn't kill the pipeline, republicans did because they were difficult, so don't blame obama because he totally wants to approve it but they wouldn't let him so it isnt his fault. At all. So don't even think that.
Nah, we'll be using engineered bio-diesel fuels within about 20 years. Maybe algae, but more likely derived from some form of bacteria.
We're about 15 years away from being able to gene engineer bacteria and other tailored micro organisms that can produce desired organics and hydrocarbons at will. Add on about five more years for the suppliers, consumers and infrastructure to switch over.
At 40 years out, that's when one of them mutates and infects humans and we get the spectacular Kerosene Zombie Apocalypse.
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:48 am
by GORDON
Actually, we'll probably be back to steam power in about 5 years after the next Obama term, if we're lucky.
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:26 am
by TheCatt
TPRJones wrote:Nah, we'll be using engineered bio-diesel fuels within about 20 years. Maybe algae, but more likely derived from some form of bacteria.
We're about 15 years away from being able to gene engineer bacteria and other tailored micro organisms that can produce desired organics and hydrocarbons at will. Add on about five more years for the suppliers, consumers and infrastructure to switch over.
At 40 years out, that's when one of them mutates and infects humans and we get the spectacular Kerosene Zombie Apocalypse.
So my FIL actually does this exact work. 15 years? good luck.
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:32 am
by TPRJones
He'd know better than I would, of course. But as they say, only I can predict genius.
I expect somewhere in that field there's a genius about to have his Eureka moment that will speed things up a lot.
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:11 am
by TheCatt
There may be... but I remember when we were going over the numbers for cost of production, and WOW is there a long way to go.
Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:02 am
by Leisher
[url=http://news.yahoo.com/gallup-poll-72-pe ... BHBrZwNmOT
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MDEtNjJjYy0xMWUxLWI1ZjctMDAxZjhkNTI1YWJm;_ylg=X3oDMTA1bmkzZDc4BHRlc3QD;_ylv=3]72% of Americans think Obama's "individual mandate" for health care is unconstitutional.[/url]
That's larger than I would have expected.
Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:24 am
by GORDON
Too bad that in most cases, what a majority of Americans think doesn't matter in the slightest.
Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 11:07 am
by TPRJones
Neither does something being unconstitutional, for that matter.
It's an election year, and it is MSNBC, so it has something to do with Obama, thus this thread.
Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 3:19 pm
by Leisher
I don't know what that is, but that is some ignorant shit right there. He cannot be serious with that line of reasoning...
Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 3:26 pm
by GORDON
The hardest part about being conservative, at least for me, is that I get so tired of having to be the person who says, "Nothing is free."
Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 3:33 pm
by TPRJones
It's technically true, government can create jobs. But it has to take money out of private hands to do so. Which means every government job is created only at the expense of funds that could have created a different private-sector job.
It's more accurate to say that governments can't create value. They're purely parasitical.
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Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 3:42 pm
by GORDON
Fits with what I meant above... nothing is free.
Create jobs? Sure, as long as we take money from someone else, first. Nothing is free.
Oh, we only tax rich people and corporations to pay for these jobs? That taxed money gets passed down to the consumer. Nothing is free.
Free health care for all? Someone is making the money that is getting taxed that is paying these medical bills. Nothing is free.
Mortgage bank bailouts? Automaker bailouts? Airline bailouts? Peter got robbed to pay Paul. Nothing is free.
And my current fave: the GOP hates women and has declared war on their health because something about people think women should pay the $10/month (or whatever) out of their own pocket for their anti-pregnancy fuck pills. What misogynist monsters for thinking you should pay for your own inexpensive contraception.
Isn't there a massive government incentive program to buy this car?
Since Obama keeps going to Detroit to tell the unions how awesome they are, and since the Obama administration has no interest in getting gas prices lower, and since he bailed out GM in the first place, this goes in the Obama thread.
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 4:32 pm
by GORDON
Apparently the estimated cost of Obamacare was about $100 billion too low.
Or, chooses to not allow more jobs to be created in America, I guess would be more accurate.
Obama didn't kill the pipeline, republicans did because they were difficult, so don't blame obama because he totally wants to approve it but they wouldn't let him so it isnt his fault. At all. So don't even think that.