“What kind of country would this be if this chamber had voted down Social Security or Medicare just because it violated some rigid idea about what government could or could not do?”
I thought their interpretation was interesting: they say the stock market slumped not beause of what Obama said, but, "Wall Street fell sharply Friday, as investors remained skeptical about how much of President Barack Obama's $447 billion proposal to generate U.S. jobs will make it through Congress."
So the markets aren't dropping because of what Obama said, they are dropping because of those tea baggers in congress and what they might do.
I guess being a hippie is pretty awesome until it actually hurts job growth and becomes an anchor on your re-election campaign.
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 5:41 pm
by TheCatt
Stimulus 2 will be paid for by taxes
He said then that he'd pay for the one-year package; the White House said Monday that it would all come from tax increases. They would include:
-Limiting itemized deductions for individuals who make more than $200,000 annually and families that earn more than $250,000. Total over 10 years: $400 billion.
-Closing loopholes for oil and gas companies. Total: $40 billion over 10 years.
-Raising taxes on investment fund managers. Total: $18 billion.
-Raising taxes on corporate jets. Total: $3 billion.
Ugh, looks like we're in for another month of TEA PARTIERS ARE TERRORISTS THEY PUT PARTY ABOVE COUNTRY AND THEY ARE RACISTS BECAUSE THEY WANT ONLY OBAMA TO FAIL.
because they don't want to increase taxes and fix the budget by reducing it. Wow, those bastards.
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Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 10:07 am
by Leisher
I've loved watching this "Jobs Bill" get rolled out by Obama. It is a perfect example of how politicians manipulate the public.
He's claiming he's on the untouchable high road, and anyone who tries to knock him off must be attacking the American people, and thus, is evil.
Unfortunately, for anyone with an IQ, his plan is bullshit. Of course, on the other side of the coin, this country is filled with entitled idiots who believe he's speaking from a position of truth and bi-partisanship.
From the article:
"We've got to decide what our priorities are," he said. "Do we keep tax loopholes for oil companies, or do we put teachers back to work? Should we keep tax breaks for millionaires and billionaires, or should we invest in education and technology and infrastructure?"
Yes we do you ignorant prick, but giving people one option and then declaring anyone who disagrees with your shitty stimulus is wrong, isn't letting people decide their priorities.
In fact, I wish a single person in the MSM had the balls to ask:
"How does eliminating loopholes for oil companies put teachers back to work? Aren't teachers paid for with tax money? And isn't that money, in most communities, gained through taxes paid by home owners?"
Or "If you eliminate the 'tax loopholes' for oil companies, won't those costs be passed onto the American consumer and send oil prices skyrocketing? When that happens will you declare the oil companies to be evil for wanting to make a profit? Do you hate capitalism?"
Or "Enough studies have shown that here in the U.S. we've been throwing more and more and more money at education, yet results have not improved. Should it really be a priority to throw more money at education or should we instead be looking at why the system is broken, and re-examining the money we're already spending there?"
Or "'Millionaires and billionaires' Mr. President? You do realize that you want to raise taxes on families who make more than $250,000 annually? That's a far cry from millionaires, let alone billionaires. Aren't you really just trying to manipulate your voter base into a rich versus poor mentality? Isn't that essentially hate speech? Do you think that you and your parties tactics have created a nation of people with their hand out who don't think they need to work hard? Isn't a nation of lazy people who expect the government to take care of them the opposite of what the founding fathers wanted for this country? Do you think JFK would be a Republican today sir? I do."
Or "What technology are you going to invest in? What is this magic technology that's going to turn around the nation's debt and spending problems? You also mention infrastructure, which is pure comedy. Granted, it'd be nice to get roads repaired because that means road crews are working. But let's be honest here, you're talking about your monorail project. Mr. President, please watch Episode 412 of The Simpsons..."
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 10:38 am
by Leisher
President Obama discusses his plans to improve the U.S.'s infrastructure:
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Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 10:46 am
by thibodeaux
Leisher wrote:
"We've got to decide what our priorities are," he said. "Do we keep tax loopholes for oil companies, or do we put teachers back to work? Should we keep tax breaks for millionaires and billionaires, or should we invest in education and technology and infrastructure?"
"We've got to decide: are we going to have false dichotomies, or are we going to have unicorns farting rainbows? You're either with ME, or you're with the TERRORISTS!"
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 10:54 am
by TheCatt
I'll be honest, I have no real issues with raising taxes on people making $250k or more, in order to pay for tax cuts on people making less... like me.
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 11:00 am
by GORDON
I don't like the fact he has to lie about it to get it done. I'm not going to sy "misrepresent," it's all just different levels of lies and deception.
And what the fuck is a "fair share?"
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 2:21 pm
by TheCatt
GORDON wrote:Ugh, looks like we're in for another month of TEA PARTIERS ARE TERRORISTS THEY PUT PARTY ABOVE COUNTRY AND THEY ARE RACISTS BECAUSE THEY WANT ONLY OBAMA TO FAIL.
The guy in the coma is going to die whether or not his neighbor is forced to pay his medical bills.
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 2:43 pm
by Leisher
Texas, where GOP candidate Rick Perry has served as governor for more than a decade and Paul has served as a U.S. Congressman for more than 20 years, has more uninsured people, as a percent of population, than any other state. In the Lone Star State 26 percent of the population does not have health insurance, according to census data compiled by the Kaiser Commission on Medicaid and the Uninsured.
And how many of those counted were illegals? Texas has a huge population of illegal immigrants.
In 2009, the most recent year for which data is available, more than 22 million emergency room visits nationwide- or over 17 percent– were by people who did not have insurance, according to the Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality, a division of the Health and Human Services Department.
And how many of those visits were life threatening? How many just showed up because they had a cold?
While uninsured people by law have to be treated in emergency rooms, studies show that they receive poorer-quality care than people with insurance. In fact, a quality of care study conducted by HHS found that there is a greater disparity in care quality between uninsured patients and those with insurance than any other demographic indicator.
Wait. Wait. Wait.
Are you honestly telling me, that rich people, who pay a ton more for premium healthcare, get treated better than people without insurance who pay nothing? Well, I'm stunned...
Listen, everyone should be treated so that they don't die, and have a good quality of life. Does that mean people without insurance should get private rooms? No. Should rich people get private rooms? Fuck yes, IF they're paying for them.
These idiots make it sound like people without insurance get the "cheap and ineffective" medicine and treatments.
Hey assholes, the President of the United States and the members of Congress have a better health care plan than the one they're trying to force upon ALL of us. What are you going to do about that?
Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 11:44 am
by GORDON
SOLYNDRAGATE!
I expect this to get very little coverage on the evening news, and it wont have legs.
Doesn't matter that there is apparently evidence of Obama paying back a campaign contribute with tax money. This is way less important than Bush's fake but accurate National Guard memos.
Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 11:47 am
by GORDON
In case you were wondering where you can report people who have bad this to say about Obama, here's the link to his reelection campaign site. They will take your statement there and supposedly respond accordingly.
