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If you're wondering, yes, if that gets offered I think the Steelers should take it.

Leisher wrote: If you're wondering, yes, if that gets offered I think the Steelers should take it.

Feels a little low for Brown, but I don't know NFL math (contracts/guaranteed $/etc)

The way the market is right now, any #1 seems like a long shot for him.

I saw that, but nothing is guaranteed until they find the right deal. He's got to go given all the havoc he's caused. It'll be interesting to see how he acts on a new team where he won't have the same privileges.

A HOF WR and a really good RB both publicly demand out of Pittsburgh. A franchise where stuff like this NEVER happens. I wonder what could be at the center of all this locker room dissent? A team with talent all over the field, yet a losing record to losing teams, a failure to win in the playoffs, and this year missed the playoffs by losing to teams they were heavily favored against. What could be the cause?

Leisher wrote: What could be the cause?

Probably ownership

Leisher wrote: What could be the cause?

Ben..

Most/least injured teams in the NFL. The Redskins as #2 most injured is not a surprise. Something is wrong there.

TheCatt wrote: Probably ownership

You jest, but I'm starting to believe the current Rooney is a problem. He might be a bit too woke to be a boss.

Stranger wrote: Ben..

No, your HOF QB isn't why your team loses to losing teams. He isn't the reason the defense has gone from one of the league's best consistently to a mediocre one at best. Nor is he the reason why our special teams are the league's worst. Try again Cleveland fan.

TheCatt wrote: Most/least injured teams in the NFL. The Redskins as #2 most injured is not a surprise. Something is wrong there.

Can't be ownership! He's the best in the league!

Goodbye, Bell. No tags.

I wish they could have traded Bell, Brown, and Tomlin as a package.

Leisher wrote: I wish they could have traded Bell, Brown, and Tomlin as a package.

probably should get rid of the root cause of this whole thing while they're cleaning house... Ben.

You are clearly still bitter about the Browns selecting Kellen Winslow Jr and not Ben.

The Madden curse still lives.

Ranking who could trade for AB.

Raiders in play for Murray?

LeVeon Bell out here proving he's a selfish douchebag.

Equating the fight for civil rights and to just be accepted as human versus getting paid $15M for one year to play a game, while the next closest RB in the league makes $8M less.

Go fuck yourself.

Leisher wrote: You are clearly still bitter about the Browns selecting Kellen Winslow Jr and not Ben.

I am.. If there was one decision that i could point to that could've changed the fortunes for Cleveland for the next 15 years, its this one.

But that doesn't change the fact that i feel that Ben is maybe the biggest problem in that Steeler's locker room.

I may be wrong, but you see what kind of effect a QB has on a team, just look at us.

Stranger wrote: But that doesn't change the fact that i feel that Ben is maybe the biggest problem in that Steeler's locker room.

I may be wrong, but you see what kind of effect a QB has on a team, just look at us.

I think the problem may be that Ben is the one calling out his coworkers, instead of the terrible coach. Ben's not wrong, but without a united "this is our culture," I don't think it'll work

TheCatt wrote:

Stranger wrote: But that doesn't change the fact that i feel that Ben is maybe the biggest problem in that Steeler's locker room.

I may be wrong, but you see what kind of effect a QB has on a team, just look at us.

I think the problem may be that Ben is the one calling out his coworkers, instead of the terrible coach. Ben's not wrong, but without a united "this is our culture," I don't think it'll work

This is a really good point. Why is the QB having to act like the coach? Where are the coaches to hold players accountable? You can't say they might be because we know they aren't. AB didn't stay with the team during summer practice, he showed up late all the time, and so on. You think he's the only player who got away with shit? Tomlin is the authority in that locker room and he has given the message that nobody is accountable. Compare that to Belichick's locker room. Sure, Tomlin won a Super Bowl with Cowher's roster and a lot of Cowher's coaching staff still there. Meanwhile, Belichick has won 6. All while Tomlin has installed his people to replace Cowher's and the Steelers have been circling the drain.

It all starts with Rooney though. This really is his mess. He's a far left person politically, which isn't exactly the best mindset for running a business. That's a big part of why he won't part ways with Tomlin.

Pats' Owner arrested for solicitation of prostitution

New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft, one of the most powerful men in American football, was charged today on two counts of soliciting prostitution in connection to a recent law enforcement bust on massage parlors in Florida that, according to law enforcement, were used for prostitution and human trafficking. The news comes a few weeks after the Patriots won their sixth Super Bowl and days after Kraft appeared at the NBA All-Star game.

Yet another stain on the Patriots.