Just as an unbiased observer who doesn't know any history there, giving the ball to Hue after the INT was pretty classless.
However, if there is a reason behind it, then yes it was awesome.
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3-36-1 is pretty much all the reason they need.
Here we are 3 weeks into an interim head coach and he's already got 2 wins! The offense actually is utilizing their weapons and has some imagination and Baker has thrown 9 TDs and 1 pick for 75% completion percentage, go figure.. I wonder what the problem was this whole time???
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Nah, that's bullshit. The man didn't go there to lose, and he got fucked over by management the first two seasons. That's not a reason to do something classless.
Tell me he was a complete asshole to players or he told that specific guy he'd never be anything or something like that. That would be worth that dick move.
I'm sure it has nothing to do with the O coordinator who was working against the HC, and who refused to create a system that fits the new QB, instead trying to shoehorn that guy into his system.
Listen, I kid a lot about Hue, and while he was a shitty HC, the three years in Cleveland weren't all his fault. Give credit where credit is due. Your offense isn't doing well right now only because Hue is gone.
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"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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This one's for Stranger so he can start hating Doug Gottlieb. Here he is addressing how Mayfield criticized Hue for taking a job with the Bengals:
Doug Gottlieb
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Somebody that was in Tech’s locker room, lost his starting job and went to Oklahoma to have a great career might not want to come off as a complete and total d—k
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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Redskins like abusers http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2539 ... d-redskins
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Yeah, saw that and immediately questioned the logic. There are a thousand RBs. Why sign a guy who just got cut for a domestic abuse arrest? He's not good enough to warrant the bad press that'll come with it.
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"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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NFL television ratings are up 5 percent this season, partially stemming a two-year slide that had prompted the league to evaluate all aspects of its operation.
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Through 12 weeks of play, NFL games are averaging 15.8 million viewers on television, according to figures released Wednesday by the league. In 2017, its games averaged 14.9 million viewers for the full season. That number was 16.5 million for the entire 2016 season and 17.9 million in 2015.
None of the numbers include streaming views, a growing part of the NFL's distribution strategy. This season, 13 Thursday night games will be streamed via Amazon Prime.
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Considering they were down from record highs, this proves that the talk of ratings dropping because of protests was bullshit.TheCatt wrote:NFL television ratings are up 5 percent this season, partially stemming a two-year slide that had prompted the league to evaluate all aspects of its operation.
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Through 12 weeks of play, NFL games are averaging 15.8 million viewers on television, according to figures released Wednesday by the league. In 2017, its games averaged 14.9 million viewers for the full season. That number was 16.5 million for the entire 2016 season and 17.9 million in 2015.
None of the numbers include streaming views, a growing part of the NFL's distribution strategy. This season, 13 Thursday night games will be streamed via Amazon Prime.
Foster may not play. Someone please explain what the hell the Washington NFLers are doing.
Mayfield proves he's immature by feeling he has to claim he isn't immature. Guy's a good talent, but he reminds me of Nuke LaLoosh. (Without Googling, who gets that reference?)
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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While were on the subject of immature QB's, here's another Big Ben moment throwing his teammates under the bus.
https://deadspin.com/ben-roethlisberger ... 1830721826
Hey Ben, i'm pretty sure i saw you throw that pick right to the D-lineman standing right on the goal line. Oh yeah, and if he didn't pick it then the CB covering AB was in perfect position to also do it. What a fucking DICK!!
https://deadspin.com/ben-roethlisberger ... 1830721826
Hey Ben, i'm pretty sure i saw you throw that pick right to the D-lineman standing right on the goal line. Oh yeah, and if he didn't pick it then the CB covering AB was in perfect position to also do it. What a fucking DICK!!
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Ha! Someone's upset that the MSM is calling his QB immature. 
An "article" from Tom Ley of Deadspin? LOL! Wasn't there one from Infowars available?
Relax there Stranger. You want your QB to be a bit of a dick. Guys who want to ball in the final seconds of a game have a very high opinion of themselves. However, until he is a consistent winner Mayfield is going to be treated by the MSM as more Manziel than Brady.
An "article" from Tom Ley of Deadspin? LOL! Wasn't there one from Infowars available?
Relax there Stranger. You want your QB to be a bit of a dick. Guys who want to ball in the final seconds of a game have a very high opinion of themselves. However, until he is a consistent winner Mayfield is going to be treated by the MSM as more Manziel than Brady.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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Oh, i'm not at all upset what the MSM is calling Baker, and obviously Baker doesn't care either. I do think that everybody is clueless as to what was really going on in the Browns locker room.
Hue was a "joke" and all the players saw it the same way. Funny that no one is talking about the press tour Hue went on after his firing saying how he would've taken Carson Wentz and Deshaun Watson and how much Tyrod Taylor could've done for his team. Oh yeah, remember when RG3 made the ground move under his feet when he worked out for the Browns. Never once did he throw a bone or have anything good to say about Baker, yeah i can see some animosity towards Hue. I'm pretty sure you watched Hard Knocks, go back and watch it again knowing what we know now and you can see the "fake" in Hue plain as day.
Also, there is just as much MSM taking Baker's side on this. Here's what Ian Eagle and Dan Fouts had to say about Hue after talking to him:
oh yeah, Deadspin isn't the only page posting about Ben's antics. Here's one from NFL.com
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300000 ... -teammates
Hue was a "joke" and all the players saw it the same way. Funny that no one is talking about the press tour Hue went on after his firing saying how he would've taken Carson Wentz and Deshaun Watson and how much Tyrod Taylor could've done for his team. Oh yeah, remember when RG3 made the ground move under his feet when he worked out for the Browns. Never once did he throw a bone or have anything good to say about Baker, yeah i can see some animosity towards Hue. I'm pretty sure you watched Hard Knocks, go back and watch it again knowing what we know now and you can see the "fake" in Hue plain as day.
Also, there is just as much MSM taking Baker's side on this. Here's what Ian Eagle and Dan Fouts had to say about Hue after talking to him:
So im not upset, just find it funny when shit posts are out there from people that don't hear the whole story.A small window into the toxicity of the situation was opened by CBS announcer Ian Eagle in a guest appearance on the Rich Eisen Show on Wednesday.
Eagle related a CBS production meeting with analyst Dan Fouts and Jackson prior to the game in Pittsburgh on Oct. 28 – Jackson’s “swan song,” as Eagle said.
“Dan Fouts asked him in the meeting, ‘You have Baker Mayfield. Why aren’t you running more of the stuff he ran at Oklahoma, the run-pass option stuff?’
“Hue said, ‘Yeah. Great question. I agree.’
“We walked out of there thinking, ‘What is going on here?’”
A subsequent meeting with Mayfield convinced Eagle something was terribly wrong.
oh yeah, Deadspin isn't the only page posting about Ben's antics. Here's one from NFL.com
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300000 ... -teammates
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I've seen that reported and commented on and people blew it off as exactly what it was, "A deflect the blame tour". Doesn't need elaboration.
I watched Hard Knocks and knew what kind of guy Hue was during his "I'm in this chair" speech.However, so did everyone else. Baker doesn't need to be out there publicly bashing the man's character and career choices. It makes him look immature and petty, which is why he's being called out on it.
Oh, and serious question, did Baker and Hue talk at midfield after the game? Did Baker shake his hand? Hug him? Say nice things? Call him out to his face? I really want to know as it would make his comments more interesting (both good or bad).
They're taking his side on not being used properly, but not in the name calling. On this topic, I really want to know how Todd Haley is escaping without blame. Sure, the buck stops with the HC, but he didn't want Haley, and it's been established that Haley was undermining him. Who hired Haley? Hue or Dorsey? Either one should have known Haley's reputation and known he wouldn't be right for the team.
Good. Now go read both articles and see if you can see the difference in how Ben's comments are reported upon. Oh, and be aware that other shitty QBs like Brady, Manning, Brees, Rivers, etc. have all publicly done the same thing.
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"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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From what has been reported by the local media Hue approached Baker and pretty much the whole Browns sideline pregame and tried "dabbing" them all up like all was good but just about the whole team gave him the cold shoulder. After the game we all saw, Hue approaches Baker and looks like he goes in for a hug and Baker just backs off not letting it get to be more than just a quick hand shake.
Hey, i totally understand your side of the argument here. But calling your coach who was unqualified to be a head coach and throwing bouquets on other QBs a fake isn't really that big of an immaturity issue in my mind. I see it more as Baker galvanizing a locker room that all clearly felt the same way about Hue.
Yeah, but its Ben.. I hate Ben and you can never change my mind on that!
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Just googled it. Peeps claim Hue went for a hug and Baker denied him, but I think it's equally reasonable upon watching that to conclude that Hue never even tried to hug Baker. Baker did absolutely nothing and seems to barely move his lips. Baker's lack of doing anything gives him plausible deniability. Good on him.
End of the day, does Hue get a job anywhere in the league once Lewis is finally cut loose?
In the event the Bengals fire Lewis during the season, Bill Simmons wants to start a Go Fund Me page to bribe them to make Hue the interim coach. Ha!
Just saw your post as we were writing at the same time...
Based on Baker's claims, I don't know that he'd be calling Hue a fake if Hue had gone to, say New Orleans.Stranger wrote: Hey, i totally understand your side of the argument here. But calling your coach who was unqualified to be a head coach and throwing bouquets on other QBs a fake isn't really that big of an immaturity issue in my mind. I see it more as Baker galvanizing a locker room that all clearly felt the same way about Hue.
Nobody doubts Hue sucked, but there are ways to deal with that and calling him a name like that publicly to the media and not to Hue's face is immature. There's no getting around that. And understand Baker SHOULD be immature. He's closer to being sperm than a retirement home.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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Browns OC weighs in : http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2541 ... ue-jackson
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Saw that. He doesn't specify anything either. Just says he supports Baker.TheCatt wrote: Browns OC weighs in : http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2541 ... ue-jackson
Hue must have made some sort of pledges about winning the division and not standing in their way or some shit. Based upon the Bengals defense, he wasn't lying.
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"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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So...did ANYONE predict last night's upset?
Also, what a highlight show for the Buckeyes. There were about a dozen starters between the two teams.
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Also, what a highlight show for the Buckeyes. There were about a dozen starters between the two teams.
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You would have loved him had you selected him instead of Kellen Winslow Jr.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell