Didn't realize that was on the table, but I guess it is anytime ownership chance is a possibility. Eh.Leisher wrote: Panthers moving?
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Cleveland needs a team...
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I feel like this topic has to come up when you discuss a team changing ownership. Panthers in Charlotte have been pretty successful though, and have basically been printing money for years now. It'd be an absurd business decision, especially considering how much it's going to cost...Leisher wrote: Panthers moving?
The team has sold-out all but two home games in it's history. Riding a 157 game sellout streak as of last weekend. Lots of local sponsorship, two states (even if they aren't like NY-level media markets) worth of territory and fans. YOUNG fans, 20-30 year olds who grew up Carolina fans are the die-hard base. A couple of easy-to-market players (Cam, Kuechly, CMC). And the current team up for bid is very competitive. Superbowl trip and winning the division more often than not in the past 5-6 years.
The sale is going to break the record on team valuation. Diddy doesn't have enough money, IMO(only $800m net worth). It's going to take a 30% stake of a $3+ Billion winning bid. So the qualified owner is someone who can cut a check for $1.0B, by themselves, not including their partners.
Consensus by the fans so far is that the Belk or Dollar Tree families who already have minority stakes will step in for the rest. They have the billions required.
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How'd I come up with the $3B valuation? The last NFL team for sale was the Bills. They were pre-valued at $900M, but billionare's love an NFL team, so it ended up going for $1.4B at auction.
Forbes values the Panthers pre-sale at $2.4B. And Charlotte>Buffalo for a bunch of reasons I don't need to go into.
Forbes values the Panthers pre-sale at $2.4B. And Charlotte>Buffalo for a bunch of reasons I don't need to go into.
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The moving thing is, as you said, something that just naturally gets brought up.
There is precedent though... Remember, the Supersonics were moved out of Seattle to Oklahoma City at the whim of their new owner.
There is precedent though... Remember, the Supersonics were moved out of Seattle to Oklahoma City at the whim of their new owner.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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Big Ben calling out the coaches for not having more than one play ready after the NFL fucked them.
He's not wrong.
Mike Tomlin sucks.
He's not wrong.
Mike Tomlin sucks.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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Rosen doesn't want to be a Brown.
NFL boosting concussion protocol.
NFL teams are complaining that GB must release Aaron Rogers, and by rule, they're right.
NFL boosting concussion protocol.
NFL teams are complaining that GB must release Aaron Rogers, and by rule, they're right.
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"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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Two weeks in a fucking row. Nobody benefits from calls more than the Patriots.
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"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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Hue is going swimming.
Got to respect the man for standing by his word and for tying it into a charity for the city.
Got to respect the man for standing by his word and for tying it into a charity for the city.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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I found that to be very interesting as rumors earlier in the day had Gruden going back to the Bucs. Could have just been his annual stirring of the rumor mill to get a raise.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell