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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 9:00 am
by Malcolm
GORDON wrote:Pretty sure I read that there are now more trees in the US than there were 100 years ago.
Or something like that.
I could believe 100 years ago. How about 500 years?
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 11:12 am
by GORDON
Probably not. But there were waaaay too many trees 500 years ago.
The last 100 years shows a good trend, though.
And know who's planting all these new trees? Mainly the lumber companies.
Kill a tree, save the planet.
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 11:48 am
by TheCatt
Yeah, pine forests rock.
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 1:01 pm
by Malcolm
GORDON wrote:Probably not. But there were waaaay too many trees 500 years ago.
The last 100 years shows a good trend, though.
And know who's planting all these new trees? Mainly the lumber companies.
Kill a tree, save the planet.
Up to a certain point. If you were to replace all the trees in the world w\ 1.2 saplings right about now, it'd suck.
Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:23 pm
by GORDON
But in an exact biomass:biomass ratio.........
Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:41 pm
by Malcolm
GORDON wrote:But in an exact biomass:biomass ratio.........
Our perceptions of & uses for trees are based on, in part, some sort of temporal measurement, usually.
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:13 pm
by TheCatt
Just announced support for Exchange/ActiveSync directly to the phone, just like Windows Mobile.
Nice.
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:18 pm
by TheCatt
Remote data wipe, calender and contacts synchronization, VPN, WPA.
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:30 pm
by TheCatt
I WANT this to replace our companies' Blackberries. Seriously, I hate RIMM's architecture. The 1) additional server piece you have to run and 2) their NOC are just additional overhead and additional points of failure (like the 2 NOC failures they've had in the past year).
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:36 pm
by Leisher
I just purchased 40 or so Blackberries for my company and they're in the field now being used and loved. I pondered the iPhone for a minute, but they are seriously discouraging people from using them as business phones...so far...
In two years when I'm ready to upgrade, it'll be interesting to see what both iPhone and Blackberry brings to the table.
As for the additional architecture for Blackberries, it is NOT necessary except for the security functions like the remote wipe. I'm not 100% sure that you can't do that without the additional server and software as long as you're running Exchange 2007.
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 2:03 pm
by TheCatt
Um.... how can you do BlackBerries without using the server or their NOC?
And they aren't discouraging it any more. (The announcements started at 1pm ET)
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 8:19 pm
by Vince
Malcolm wrote:GORDON wrote:Pretty sure I read that there are now more trees in the US than there were 100 years ago.
Or something like that.
I could believe 100 years ago. How about 500 years?
There are more trees now than 500 years ago in this country.
Up until 100 years ago or so there weren't nearly as many hinderances to a forest fire that there are today. Fires start all the time in nature due to lightning strikes, etc. Before we started building roads and sending out folks to contain the fires they would burn until heavy rains put them out or they hit a natural fire break like a river or rocky region.
Nature's way of cleaning up. After about 50 years most species of trees are puting out more greenhouse gasses due to decomp of foliage than they're cleaning up.
I've always argued with global warming idiots that if they wanted to help stop global warming they should lobby to clear cut the old growth forests.
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:52 pm
by Leisher
Um.... how can you do BlackBerries without using the server or their NOC?
You can use your Blackberry without the server or NOC, but you must have Exchange 2007. That, of course, only runs on Windows Server 2003 64 bit.
I'm not sure if the wipe ability is still there, but I know it can be done.
I'm pretty sure the same applies to the Verizon handhelds, so I assume it's pretty standard.
I mean, it has to be true right? Think about it, what about the customer who buys a blackberry at the store and sets it up to receive his/her personal emails?
Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:24 am
by TheCatt
We have Exchange 2007, 64-bit. And BlackBerry said we had to get the server, and run everything through their NOC.
I think you are referring to BlackBerry's hosted solution, which is $10/user/month.
Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 1:13 pm
by Malcolm
Vince wrote:Malcolm wrote:GORDON wrote:Pretty sure I read that there are now more trees in the US than there were 100 years ago.
Or something like that.
I could believe 100 years ago. How about 500 years?
There are more trees now than 500 years ago in this country.
After we hacked out all the trees for houses, ships, industry, etc., there's still more than the Puritan days?
Just found a powerpoint pres referencing the National Report on Forest Resources. Estimates from 1760 said over 1 billion acres of forest. 2000 measurements say somewhere in the 700 million range. Lowest point was 1920 & since then we've stayed within +/- 5%.
Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 5:16 pm
by Leisher
We have Exchange 2007, 64-bit. And BlackBerry said we had to get the server, and run everything through their NOC.
I think you are referring to BlackBerry's hosted solution, which is $10/user/month.
I'm really not.
I know for a fact that the Verizon handhelds could do it and damn I am 99.9% certain that I had this conversation with AT&T and Blackberry. They can run without that software, you just can't use every feature.
Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:17 pm
by TheCatt
You'd have to prove it to me, cuz BlackBerry couldn't prove it to me.
I think it can only do POP3 without the BES at best.
Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 8:20 pm
by Leisher
I think it can only do POP3 without the BES at best.
They can do that on top of the software and their corporate setup.
You'd have to prove it to me, cuz BlackBerry couldn't prove it to me.
I'm having lunch with AT&T on Friday, I'll ask again at that time.
Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 5:00 pm
by WSGrundy
The new iphones are $400 bucks cheaper then originals?
I know 8GB costs less now then it did a year ago but still.
How big of a chump must you feel like if you waited in line for one and paid $600. If you did that though your probably a big apple fan and don't really care. My guess is you will be waiting in line to pay another $200 bucks for the new one.
I still don't have any real use for one other then better pics and music being displayed and played when someone calls but $199 for one is much easier to swallow.
Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 5:32 pm
by TheCatt
I'm waiting for 64GB of storage.