SO "we were already here when he took office" = record-level spending is the best way to fix it?
Who has the link to the "The New Deal extended the Great Depression by 7 years" article?
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Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 8:37 pm
by TheCatt
I honestly think most of the steps he has taken have been beneficial to the economy. It's not perfect, but it's good.
And yeah, the spending sucks, but the people it's hurting the most are the Chinese.
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Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:26 pm
by Vince
Well, I don't know how much of this is Obama's specific doing, but the debt and the printing of money is really bad. If you noticed the big dip in the middle of the day yesterday in the markets that was due to our having to raise the interest rates on our 5 year bonds that they auctioned off yesterday in order just to sell them.
That will happen a lot if they actually go off the dollar as the global currency. It will effectively raise the debt that much more.
So far the deficit (for the year) has almost tripled over last years which was a new record.
I'm not sure, but if the dollar actually collapses, that's a pretty big deal I'd think.
Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 12:28 am
by TPRJones
Indeed.
'Twould be best to keep your pantry very well stocked at all times.
The less weaponry our repressive federal government has, the less it can turn on it's citizens when the shit goes down.
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 4:26 pm
by GORDON
The military is the one power that federal gov't wields that is actually IN the Constitution. And the F22 is one of the few things the gov't buys that actually works. Yeah, better slash that.
Maybe they need more money for that "civil defense force" or whatever it was we were talking about, before.
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 4:47 pm
by Malcolm
Then why's he talking about fucking w\ Afghanistan further? If you want to spend less on the military, the easiest way is to make them fight less frequently.
“The President is annoyed by what he sees as the naivety and the herd mentality of the media,”
I couldn't agree more.
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:48 pm
by GORDON
Hey look at these people in New York City running in fear because the White House decided a 747 heading toward buildings being trailed by an F-16 would be a good photo op.
Traveling the world making best friends with all these foreigners, and scaring the shit out of Americans. I can't think of a better metaphor for Obama.
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Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:04 pm
by TheCatt
I'm not aware Obama had anything to do with that decision.
An official from the Obama administration said the White House Military Office wanted to update its file photo of the president's plane near the Statue of Liberty.
This official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, said the White House Military Office told the Federal Aviation Administration that it periodically updates file photos of Air Force One near national landmarks, like the statue in New York harbor and the Grand Canyon.
"It's completely asinine after 9/11 to do that," said Keith Mercantine, who witnessed the chaos in Jersey City. "I saw ambulances out here with pregnant women."
An Air Force One lookalike and F-16 buzzed the Statue of Liberty in New York harbor in the morning, halting work on nearby construction sites, causing residents and office workers to flee their high-rises and giving thousands of people in downtown Manhattan and New Jersey a major fright.
At least two people were treated for minor injuries at Jersey City Medical Center after falling during the rush to exit their buildings.
"Everybody panicked," said Daisy Cooper, a Merrill Lynch worker in Jersey City, who lost a nephew on 9/11. "Everybody was screaming and we all ran downstairs. I'm devastated...Everybody was running, we didn't know why we were running. We just knew it was a plane, there we go, 9/11 again."
Did you hear he named his dog after himself?
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 11:44 pm
by TPRJones
Granted it's not a very bright thing to do without giving notice, but that looks like a whole lot of overreacting there to me.
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 3:28 am
by Malcolm
I'm sure the dudes that lived thru Pearl Harbor didn't freak out every time they saw boats & planes again.
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:58 am
by thibodeaux
I think the crowd was reacting in horror at the CARBON FOOTPRINT!!!1!!
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 8:51 pm
by Vince
TPRJones wrote:Granted it's not a very bright thing to do without giving notice, but that looks like a whole lot of overreacting there to me.
I think it's easy to say they're over reacting from here. It was only over reacting because they weren't headed towards a building.
This time
I don't blame them.
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 8:52 pm
by Vince
Malcolm wrote:I'm sure the dudes that lived thru Pearl Harbor didn't freak out every time they saw boats & planes again.
Maybe not, but they did when they saw Japanese.
And I'm sure they freaked out when they saw a plane looking like it was making a straffing run.
