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Posted: **Mon Dec 10, 2012 12:04 pm**

The Ravens are 9-4 and fired their offensive coordinator. Meanwhile, both Andy Reid, Rex Ryan, and Ken Whisenhunt still inexplicably have jobs.

Posted: **Mon Dec 10, 2012 8:48 pm**

Wow. Reportedly, Vince Young is bucking for the Cardinals QB job.

Posted: **Mon Dec 10, 2012 9:21 pm**

So... who do the Patriots beat in the Super Bowl?

Posted: **Mon Dec 10, 2012 11:47 pm**

I actually have to go Redskins unless RG3's injury goes more than a week. Maybe the Giants if they randomly get their shit together for the postseason, but Eli's inconsistent, their D is average, their running game is unproven. The only questions for Washington: (1) Can they protect the QB and (2) Can their defense stop a high-powered offense?

I am amazed at how bad Matt Schaub looked tonight. I expected at least 20 points a side.

Posted: **Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:13 pm**

Bounty ruling.

No suspensions. Sounds like fines though, as three of them engaged in "conduct detrimental to the league" or something.

Posted: **Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:18 pm**

I don't buy the Patriots. They're smoke and mirrors.

I also think Houston is vastly overrated.

If Pittsburgh could stay healthy for 5 minutes your question would be: "Who does New England or Pittsburgh beat in the Super Bowl?"

That being said, I like the Packers to beat the Patriots.

Posted: **Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:23 pm**

I don't buy the Patriots. They're smoke and mirrors.

Really? 472 point scored this season (99 more than the nearest team). Two things concern me about the Pats ... their defense and the general shittiness of their division.

I also think Houston is vastly overrated.

Overrated, but still a contender.

That being said, I like the Packers to beat the Patriots.

Not after watching Detroit shutdown their passing game this past weekend.

Posted: **Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:40 pm**

Really? 472 point scored this season (99 more than the nearest team). Two things concern me about the Pats ... their defense and the general shittiness of their division.

Really.

They've always been able to score in bunches. Big deal. They set scoring records when they went undefeated, and that didn't work out too well for them.

They haven't won a Super Bowl since they got cheating. And when they were cheating they were only beating teams by 3 points.

They play in the worst division in football. The other three teams would be cellar dwellers in any other division. There's a reason that every year they manage to have one of the easiest schedules.

That lack of true competition has meant their doom when they get into the playoffs. Teams there are wearing their big boy pants.

They get a LOT of home calls. More than any other team. Remember the tuck rule? How about the asshole being allowed to snow plow out a spot for their kicker on that game winning field goal?

And while we're on the subject, Tom Brady is possibly the most overrated player in history. Matt Cassell took that team to 11 wins, and that's when they had less talent. It's the fucking system. Hell, Belicheck has admitted that on multiple occasions.

Fuck New England.

Not after watching Detroit shutdown their passing game this past weekend.

Two things:
1. Detroit's secondary is miles better than New England's.
2. Detroit is one of the worst coached teams in the league. If Jeff Fisher had gone there instead of St. Louis, they'd be leading the division.

Posted: **Tue Dec 11, 2012 4:11 pm**

New England's secondary has given up about the same number of passing TDs, more INTs, and about as many sacks. I don't know about miles. They give up about 50-60 more yards per game. If your opponents can't fucking capitalize on their yards, though, then it doesn't mean shit. Houston may be overblown, but they're a notch or two above the Lions, and they just got manhandled.

3 Super Bowl rings and he's the most overrated player in history? Did he personally piss in your cornflakes?

Posted: **Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:33 pm**

I am eminently pissed that Denarius Moore picked this particular part of the year to suck exceptionally.

I'm down to the likes of him, Rod Streater, Clay Harbor, Joique Bell, or Alex Green for a flex start. I'm leaning Joique, mainly because Arizona's playing Detroit this week. Just need to snag him off waivers.

EDIT: Damn, I think I suck on match ups alone. My opponent has...

Rodgers at Chicago
No-Show Moreno at Baltimore
Decker also at Baltimore
Stevie Johnson at Seattle
Kyle Rudolph at St. Louis
DeMarco Murray at Pittsburgh
Pats D at Frisco

His alternatives are Miles Austin playing the Steelers or, if he has balls of steel, David Wilson at Atlanta.

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Posted: **Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:41 pm**

Fucking opponent outbid me for Bell. Streater it is.

As for QB ... Big Ben at Dallas or Russell Wilson at Buffalo? Buffalo just gave up 200+ yards and a score to Sam "Sackee" Bradford. Then again, Dallas gave Andy Dalton about the same. The Bills have a far shittier secondary overall, though.

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Posted: **Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:46 pm**

New England's secondary has given up about the same number of passing TDs, more INTs, and about as many sacks. I don't know about miles. They give up about 50-60 more yards per game. If your opponents can't fucking capitalize on their yards, though, then it doesn't mean shit. Houston may be overblown, but they're a notch or two above the Lions, and they just got manhandled.

Compare their schedules and opponents. New England plays Buffalo, Miami, and the New York Jets twice each. This year they also got to play the Rams, Arizona, and Joe Flacco.

Smoke and mirrors.

3 Super Bowl rings and he's the most overrated player in history? Did he personally piss in your cornflakes?

Ok, my comment was harsh, especially regarding a guy in the same sports league as Michael Vick (the true most overrated player ever), however consider the following:
-Belicheck stating that the system makes the QB.
-This being proven by the horrific Matt Cassell going 11-5 there when Brady went down in the pre-season. Cassell lost his starting job in KC to Brady Quinn...let that sink in...
-The Dolphins, Bill, and Jets have all been abysmal during Brady's tenure. Yeah, the Jets made two runs, but they did it with Mark Sanchez. What's that mean? The Jets D beat Brady, Sanchez didn't beat anyone.
-Tom Brady only got to start because Drew Bledsoe got hurt.
-Brady won his three rings when the Patriots were cheating. He hasn't won shit since they got caught.
-The "Tuck Rule" game resulted in one of those rings.
-Put Tom Brady on another team with a different offensive system, and does he do as well? Hard to say. Could he do what Peyton did in Indy? I doubt it.
-I know this is minor, but they have one of the best home field advantages in all of sports due to the weather.

Tom Brady is a good quarterback. I would never suggest otherwise. However, I think he gets too much praise.

As for it being personal, fuck yes it is... First of all, he's a Michigan grad, so he's a douchebag. Second, they cheated, literally, the Steelers out of two more Super Bowl appearances.

As for Ben or Wilson, I think you're going to be fine either way. Just watch the weather if they're in Buffalo...

Posted: **Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:08 pm**

This year they also got to play the Rams...

The Rams do not have a bullshit defense. They just stuffed Buffalo to less than 50% of their home points average this past week. The reason St. Louis might have a better than .500 season ain't the fucking offense.

Cassell lost his starting job in KC to Brady Quinn

Shittier o-line, shittier passer protection, shittier WRs (maybe Bowe doesn't totally suck, but that's it), shittier TEs, shittier run game (Jamaal Charles is overrated as hell). Cassell also was a good QB for about 1.5 seasons. He's got some talent, but he ain't a Brady or (Peyton) Manning, or Aaron Rodgers.

Tom Brady only got to start because Drew Bledsoe got hurt

Kurt Warner only got to start because Trent Greene got hurt. Your point? How many MVPs did he win? How many yards did he pass for with feet made of solid concrete and the fugly pass protection in Arizona and the post-Super Bowl Rams?

Brady won his three rings when the Patriots were cheating. He hasn't won shit since they got caught.

Only one other team in NFL history went 3 out of 4 years with a Super Bowl win. I'll chalk it up to statistics and the fact that players retire, or get signed or traded away.

Did I hear the commentator (can't remember if it's Gruden or Bradshaw) sucking his dick every time he opened his mouth? Good Christ, yes. I suppose the aura that second-coming aura settled around Brett Favre has truly been passed on to another QB. If history is any guide, he'll be forcing passes into triple coverage in a couple years. If he's got half a brain he'll retire in a couple years or immediately after the next championship ring.

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Posted: **Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:41 pm**

The Rams do not have a bullshit defense.

Of the 9 games I mentioned, you highlighted a sub-.500 team as not being "easy". To top it off, you qualified it with their performance against Ryan Fitzpatrick.

I haven't seen a display like that since the Browns needed 8 turnovers and two terrible turnover calls, at home, to beat a 38 year old backup...by 6 points...

Shittier o-line, shittier passer protection, shittier WRs (maybe Bowe doesn't totally suck, but that's it), shittier TEs, shittier run game (Jamaal Charles is overrated as hell).

I disagree. The o-line in NE at the time was awesome at pass protection, but KC's current line isn't the worst in the league. It's working for Quinn...

Also, at that time, NE's receivers were terrible. Brady has more targets now than he ever did before.

And Charles isn't overrated. He's on the second worst team in the NFL, and still putting up good stats.

Kurt Warner only got to start because Trent Greene got hurt. Your point? How many MVPs did he win? How many yards did he pass for with feet made of solid concrete and the fugly pass protection in Arizona and the post-Super Bowl Rams?

The point is he wasn't blowing people away with his skills or work ethic. He isn't Peyton or Luck.

Only one other team in NFL history went 3 out of 4 years with a Super Bowl win.

Don't forget the mention the cheating!

Did I hear the commentator (can't remember if it's Gruden or Bradshaw) sucking his dick every time he opened his mouth? Good Christ, yes. I suppose the aura that second-coming aura settled around Brett Favre has truly been passed on to another QB. If history is any guide, he'll be forcing passes into triple coverage in a couple years. If he's got half a brain he'll retire in a couple years or immediately after the next championship ring.

Brady is currently the QB most announcers masturbate to, yes. His retirement won't come after throwing into triple coverage, he's not a gunslinger. His retirement will be a race between him and Belicheck before the smoke drifts away and all the mirrors are broken. I wouldn't be surprised to see them both retire at the same time.

Again, not saying the guy isn't good. You have to be amazing to even be in the NFL, let alone start, and win Super Bowls.

I'm just saying that New England, Belicheck, and Brady get odd passes from the MSM. Everyone tries to pretend Belicheck wasn't behind one of the biggest scandals in modern sports, and they try to pretend that some (not going to say "a lot" just to make this debate resolve quicker) of Brady's success comes from the game plan, and not so much because of his own skills.

Right guy, right place, right time.

Could Brady go to Indy and run the offense like Peyton did? No.

Could Brady have won 2 Super Bowls, and appeared in a 3rd in Pittsburgh where the offensive line sometimes doesn't exist? No.

I do think he would have had success in New Orleans, Atlanta, Houston, Green Bay, etc., but I also think other QBs could have been put into his situation and done as good or perhaps better.

Thus, why I think he's a bit overrated. And I shouldn't just pick on him, as I think a lot of players get fame based on circumstance rather than just their own skill level.

Posted: **Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:23 pm**

Fucking amazing. I'm in line to lose my playoff game to a fucker who has outscored me precisely two weeks this entire season ... (i) the only regular season game I played and (ii) today.

Seriously, wtf? This is mainly from Joe Flacco killing Ray Rice. Get that loser the fuck out of there.

EDIT: Today is also a good example of Eli Manning and why he sucks. He's always going to be "good enough" but never great. His elderly brother is routing a division-leading team and he is being routed by a division-leading team. I've got no idea how that fucker ever won a Super Bowl.

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Posted: **Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:56 pm**

I'm in line to lose my playoff game to a fucker whose outscored precisely two weeks this entire season ... (i) the only regular season game I played and (ii) today.

Huh?

This is mainly from Joe Flacco killing Ray Rice. Get that loser the fuck out of there.

I hope Baltimore hangs onto Flacco forever.

EDIT: Today is also a good example of Eli Manning and why he sucks. He's always going to be "good enough" but never great. His elderly brother is routing a division-leading team and he is being routed by a division-leading team. I've got no idea how that fucker ever won a Super Bowl.

Because he played Brady twice and AFTER the Patriots were caught cheating.

Posted: **Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:23 pm**

Ugh, I had Rice and Eli today.

Also had Morris and Johnson, so that helped.

Too bad Hankerson lives on my bench.

Oh well... it's just fantasy... GO REDSKINS!

Posted: **Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:30 pm**

Huh?

Fixed. I was half paying attention when I typed that, pissed after Eric Decker hauled in a 50+ yard score. That fucker may kill me.

I've got an outside chance if Lynch, Welker, Crabtree, and Big Ben pick up the slack. I expect next to nothing from my flex. Opponent didn't score handily, but he's in line for 120-130 points if things keep going his way.

In other news, the QB I didn't start already has 2 rushing TDs in the first quarter. Fuck me sideways.

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Posted: **Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:37 pm**

I need Miles Austin to not get outscored by Cam Newton + CJ Spiller + Vernon Davis by 18 or more.

Go Austin and the Steelers

Giants 8-6
Redskins 8-6 (now leading the division, I believe)
Viking 8-6
Bears 8-6

Damn

Posted: **Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:45 pm**

I'm not out of it, but I can't have any big name player besides Rice have a shitty game for the rest of the day.

EDIT: Oh my fucking god, I should have played Wilson. Not doing it is contributing to me dying. Steve Johnson doing something in Buffalo doesn't help either. Fuck me.

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