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I'm assuming that's deepfake?
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AI.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Deepfakes superimpose a face over an existing video.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepfake doesn't seem to required face/existing video, but that was an early use of them.
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So, when I hear people saying "AI" for these things, it's still technically considered Deepfakes. Ok. Makes sense.
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Tariffs baby.

Stocks down, oil up, that's the way Trump likes to fuck (the economy).
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Feels like a shitty, dumb move. Dumb economic shit like this is how Biden lost the country.
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Full speed ahead I say, captain has the helm.
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I think it's a bad move. Up to this point his targets have been lawbreakers, government bloat, and people in government who have gone after him in the past.

I've seen that his reasoning for the tariffs is "because they keep letting fentanyl into the US." If that's true, it's dumb. Just like with the ICE raids, most people don't care because we're literally just following the law, and peeps are tired of the illegal immigrant crisis, and are tired of the previous administration doing nothing to stop it aside from photo ops.

And most people also don't care if illegal drug users get a batch of poison and kill themselves.

And most people sure as hell don't want their grocery prices going back up just to save them.

So this is a bad move. A big chunk of his support was people who were tired of inflation. And I can't see him caring enough about drug ODs to do this.

So I don't know what "Project 2025" had as a reasoning for this particular thing.
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As Catt said, if NAFTA has provisions to prevent this, I expect lawsuits will be filed and judges asked to move swiftly to block the tariffs.

No idea how Mexico is doing financially, but Canada is already a shitshow, so they can't afford a trade war. (Not that we can either.)
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Trump is off to a roaring start, with the 53% of people who voted for him. Today Vance would be an easy lay-up to follow.

Making shit more expensive (again) will ruin that momentum and good will.
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GORDON wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 4:20 pm Trump is off to a roaring start, with the 53% of people who voted for him. Today Vance would be an easy lay-up to follow.

Making shit more expensive (again) will ruin that momentum and good will.
But then again, this is the guy that plays politics with a bazooka. He isn't interested in leaving the republicans in a good position in 3.5 years.
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To put the tariffs in place, Trump in his executive action declared a national economic emergency, invoking the International Emergency Economic Powers Act, known as “IEEPA,” which authorizes a president to unilaterally manage imports during a national emergency. The tariffs are set to go into effect Tuesday at 12:01 am ET.
What emergency?
“Today, I have implemented a 25% Tariff on Imports from Mexico and Canada (10% on Canadian Energy), and a 10% additional Tariff on China,” Trump said in a message posted to Truth Social on Saturday. He said he used the IEEPA “because of the major threat of illegal aliens and deadly drugs killing our Citizens, including fentanyl. We need to protect Americans, and it is my duty as President to ensure the safety of all.”
Bullshit.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/01/politics ... index.html
The tariffs will have no exemptions, and the executive action Trump signed Saturday will close the so-called de minimis loophole that had allowed shipments of $800 or less to come into the United States tax-free — a key provision used by many American small businesses but also Chinese e-commerce companies such as Shein and Temu.
I'm torn on this, but open to it. I don't love the advantages Temu + Shein get, but this isn't the biggest one.
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I do not love the WSJ editorial board, but sometimes even a blind squirrel finds a nut.
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Trump will impose 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico for no good reason.
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They're just copying me from yesterday when I said this was dumb.
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GORDON wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 11:35 am They're just copying me from yesterday when I said this was dumb.
They published 2 days ago. So you're copying them!
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I wrote it 3 days ago but forgot to hit post until 1 days ago. So now I want to know why the fuck they are hacking my machine.
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GORDON wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 12:50 pm I wrote it 3 days ago but forgot to hit post until 1 days ago. So now I want to know why the fuck they are hacking my machine.
Don't your machines have a history of being hacked? (Sorry, too soon?)
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Heyo.
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“The USA has major deficits with Canada, Mexico, and China (and almost all countries!), owes 36 Trillion Dollars, and we’re not going to be the ‘Stupid Country’ any longer,” he wrote. “MAKE YOUR PRODUCT IN THE USA AND THERE ARE NO TARIFFS!”
Does he think the national debt is related to trade deficits?

Does he remember growing the national debt so much?
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He said something along the lines of "this'll hurt for a minute but it will be worth it."

And I'm sitting here thinking about how long it would take to start manufacturing items in the USA, now paying the union wages, with American expenses, versus the cheap asian labor. And it's like 5-7 years. And it will never happen anyway because of the union wage rates being higher than the 25% tariffs. So this is just a new, permanent 25% increase in the cost of imported goods.

Thanks Trump!
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