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The [s]First[/s] Only Trump term...so far

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2024 5:39 pm
by GORDON
Does anyone really think a precedent will be set that a President can be imprisoned? Even Trump?

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Posted: Wed May 01, 2024 9:30 am
by Troy
Leisher wrote: Tue Apr 30, 2024 5:18 pm Trump's judge might have already fucked up.

Or played his role correctly if you believe conspiracy theories...

TLDR: The judge has basically told prosecutors they can question Trump on anything, including stuff he's not on trial for, which is exactly why Weinstein's conviction was overturned.
Requires Trump to take the witness stand. No chance.

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Posted: Wed May 01, 2024 3:40 pm
by GORDON
Even if trump is found guilty, his penalty with be $$$. And if not, Biden will pardon him. Calling it. Trump aint going to prison. My dollar is on that.

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Posted: Wed May 01, 2024 4:04 pm
by Troy
GORDON wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 3:40 pm And if not, Biden will pardon him.
Seems accurate or this timeline. I don't think he can be found guilty of that many felonies and not get jail, though.

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Posted: Wed May 01, 2024 11:32 pm
by Leisher
GORDON wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 3:40 pm And if not, Biden will pardon him.
I could actually see this happening, especially if Troy is right and Trump does face jail time. Even more true if Trump wins the election. I think the parties will comes to an agreement secretly that they both lose if the incoming president is in the pokey.

It boggles my mind every day that these are our candidates.

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Posted: Thu May 02, 2024 12:30 pm
by Leisher
I see Stormy Daniels' lawyer is testifying today.

Hey Troy, how are lawyers allowed to be brokers for illegal deals? If the hush money payments were illegal, how could this lawyer be involed?

Gloria Eldridge (is that her name?) is a famous CA lawyer who very publicly represented a woman who had an affair with David B (the guy who played Angel) and wanted hush money payments. (David said no and just told his wife rather than be blackmailed.)

Legally, how do they get away with this?

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Posted: Thu May 02, 2024 3:08 pm
by Troy
They can claim attorney client privilege and not talk about, for example, their client coming to them and laying out an outrageous criminal conspiracy.

But my understanding is if they knowingly play a part in it, and knowing hide it, etc, they are just as guilty.

The often exploited loophole is that they can claim to not know what their client was really up to, and fog it up with atty client privilege if pressed on the details.


One more - I don’t think the hush money payments are illegal, nor it cheating on your wife(new mother with a baby) with a sex worker. It was lying about the payments using campaign funds. That’s the felony.

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Posted: Thu May 02, 2024 4:21 pm
by Leisher
Thanks for the explanation. Feels like as a society we should really try to close those loopholes so legal blackmail (in the case of the Angel actor) can go away.

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Posted: Thu May 02, 2024 4:32 pm
by GORDON
Right after they close the campaign -donation- bribe loopholes.

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Posted: Fri May 03, 2024 8:51 am
by TheCatt



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Posted: Fri May 03, 2024 10:09 am
by TheCatt
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/05/03/trump-m ... udits.html
Trump Media auditor charged by SEC with ‘massive fraud,’ permanently barred from public company audits

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Posted: Fri May 03, 2024 10:36 am
by Leisher
There are no winners in the Trump diaper thing.

-Trump's basically Jabba the Hut and his condition is thanks to rampant drug use.
-The people wearing the shirts or having the banner are clearly the actual "MAGA" people, so...idiots.
-The people mocking Trump and his cultists are also mocking anyone who wear diapers. Probably not a big hit with the elderly, their caretakers, medical professionals, and so on.

Just all around gross.
TheCatt wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 10:09 am https://www.cnbc.com/2024/05/03/trump-m ... udits.html
Trump Media auditor charged by SEC with ‘massive fraud,’ permanently barred from public company audits
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Posted: Sun May 05, 2024 10:00 pm
by TheCatt

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Posted: Sun May 05, 2024 10:05 pm
by GORDON
They're bringing body shaming back.

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Posted: Mon May 06, 2024 1:56 pm
by Leisher
I laughed, but Gordon does have a point.

Lots of people are outraged at college students (and one racist kid) in LSU for making fat jokes at a large black woman's expense, yet none of them say shit when Trump's body is mocked or any conservative woman's.

On that note, Trump might have the weirdest body in history. Patrice O'Neil once told Jim Norton that his body was the shape of whatever container you poured him into. Obviously a joke between friends, but it might be legit with Trump.

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Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 12:23 pm
by Troy
Troy wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 9:30 am
Requires Trump to take the witness stand. No chance.
Sure enough. Trump defense rests case with no star witness.

https://www.usnews.com/news/top-news/ar ... as-witness

Who knows what he would have said. I think this shows Trump got worried too.

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Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 12:27 pm
by GORDON
I saw yesterday the judge got pissed and demanded no one make eye contact with him.

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Posted: Thu May 30, 2024 5:16 pm
by Troy
JUST IN: A Manhattan jury found Donald Trump guilty on all 34 counts of falsifying business records he faced in his New York hush money criminal trial.
Trump is the first president in US history to be convicted of a felony.
Prosecutors accused Trump of taking part in an illegal conspiracy to undermine the integrity of the 2016 election and an unlawful plan to suppress negative information, which included concealing a hush money payment to adult film star Stormy Daniels.
- CNN

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Posted: Thu May 30, 2024 5:16 pm
by TheCatt
Guilty guilty guilty

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Posted: Thu May 30, 2024 5:40 pm
by GORDON
Would be amusing to follow the jury for the next 6 months and see which of them end up rich.