Page 3 of 4
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:34 am
by GORDON
Who knows, maybe it was just a really good 'shop.
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:23 pm
by Malcolm
Vince wrote:It's perfectly sane. That's the problem. Assigning sane and rational reasoning to an insane person (Williams).
Recently I had a 2nd cousin kill herself. She left behind two kids. I had to stop trying to get my head around it. Suicide is one of the most selfish things a person can do (unless done while throwing yourself on a live grenade). But I've never felt so hopeless that I thought it would NEVER get better. I just couldn't relate to where she might be.
If Robin Williams had been capable of that reasoning, then he wouldn't have been mentally ill.
Selfish? Making someone live a life they don't want works out great for everyone except the dude being forced. If you want to check out, you've got every right.
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:31 pm
by Vince
Malcolm wrote:Selfish? Making someone live a life they don't want works out great for everyone except the dude being forced. If you want to check out, you've got every right.
You can argue someone should be allowed to do that, but it's selfish.
1. chiefly concerned with one's own interest, advantage, etc, esp to the total exclusion of the interests of others
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:53 pm
by TheCatt
I'll accept that it's selfish, but only on the basis that 98% of people's decisions are selfish.
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 1:25 pm
by TPRJones
If you want to check out, you've got every right.
She left behind two kids.
These two things do not go together.
I generally agree that people should have an absolute right to leave this life when they want to. To end it on their own terms. But having kids changes everything. Having kids is the most selfish thing you can do, and it requires that it be the last selfish thing you do. Once you have kids, your life is no longer your own to end. It belongs to them. At least until they are old enough to go live their own lives without you. Then you can have it back and end it. Until then no way.
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 1:35 pm
by Vince
I agree with TPR. And even if your kids are grown, it's a shitty thing to do to them. It's a shitty thing to do to anyone that cares about you. The ones you leave behind will almost always wonder if they missed something or could have done something to have changed things.
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 1:40 pm
by Leisher
Agree with TPR and Vince.
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 1:52 pm
by TheCatt
I have a multitude of feelings. I agree with TPR/Vince/Leisher, and with Malcolm.
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 3:06 pm
by GORDON
I'm just over here thinking my "insane" thoughts.
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 3:45 pm
by TheCatt
GORDON wrote:I'm just over here thinking my "insane" thoughts.
Wait... is that a cry for help?
Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 3:01 pm
by TPRJones
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 11:45 am
by Leisher
Apparently was a huge gamer.
Blizzard stepping up to honor him, Nintendo non-committal.
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 11:47 am
by Troy
Robin Williams was a big fan and player of Warhammer. One of us.
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 2:55 pm
by Leisher
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:21 pm
by Vince
Didn't he have a kid named Zelda?
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 9:12 pm
by Leisher
Yes
Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 4:57 pm
by Malcolm
Vince wrote:Didn't he have a kid named Zelda?
He named both his kids after vid game characters. Never said where he got "Cody" from.
Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:49 pm
by Malcolm
It's a shitty thing to do to anyone that cares about you. The ones you leave behind will almost always wonder if they missed something or could have done something to have changed things.
Yeah, it's shitty. But it's still up to you. Buddy of mine killed himself. Had a kid. Was maybe 2. If there's an afterlife and I run into him, first thing I'm going to do is deck that motherfucker.
I'll help him up after and buy some beers and shots, but he deserves that greeting. It's not something I can hold against him or anyone else in a permanent way, though. I justify that with, "No one asked my ass to be born, I don't have to ask anyone to die."
Edited By Malcolm on 1408762248
Robin Williams dead
Posted: Sun May 06, 2018 9:38 am
by TheCatt
For Gordon
New research suggests there is a link between childhood adversity and creative experiences. According to a study published in Frontiers in Psychology, performing artists who experienced more abuse, neglect or family dysfunction in childhood tend to have a more intense creative process.
“We began this study approximately fifteen years ago. The notion that artists and performing artist suffered more pathology, including bipolar, disorder troubled us. No one seemed willing to also include the effects of early childhood adversity and adult trauma and its influence on creativity and psychopathology,” explained study author Paula Thomson, a professor at California State University, Northridge.
“This study reflects years of dedicated research. In general, the performing artists in our sample who experienced a high amount of trauma may suffer more pathology but they also thrive with heightened flow experiences and value the creative process as a healing and meaningful component in their lives.”
The researchers surveyed 83 actors, directors, and designers; 129 dancers; and 20 musicians and opera singers regarding adversity they faced in childhood. The scientific questionnaire assessed emotional, physical, and sexual abuse; emotional and physical neglect; and household dysfunction (such as domestic violence, substance abuse, and divorce.)
Robin Williams dead
Posted: Sun May 06, 2018 10:47 pm
by Alhazad
TheCatt wrote: For Gordon
New research suggests there is a link between childhood adversity and creative experiences. According to a study published in Frontiers in Psychology, performing artists who experienced more abuse, neglect or family dysfunction in childhood tend to have a more intense creative process.
Those things also make you a much higher risk for depression and substance abuse. Interesting.
