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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 10:27 pm
by GORDON
I've hated security measures since I was 24, and got out of the Marines, in a FUCK YOU sense for assuming I might be trying to smuggle X onto this plane.
My hatred became much worse when I had health issues and the mere act of taking off my shoes for security was embarrassingly difficult for me.
I am just barely able to tolerate security the way it was... not sure if I could handle the pat down. And I know one thing for sure... I could never, ever subject my son to it. He won't be flying.
Well done, TSA.
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:00 am
by thibodeaux
Now, I'm not really keeping up with things lately, but is it really now true that EVERY passenger has to choose between backscatter scanner and pat-down?
If so, that's so retarded it defies imagination.
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 9:48 am
by TheCatt
thibodeaux wrote:Now, I'm not really keeping up with things lately, but is it really now true that EVERY passenger has to choose between backscatter scanner and pat-down?
If so, that's so retarded it defies imagination.
Where those machines are installed, yes.
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 9:52 am
by thibodeaux
Retarded.
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:10 am
by GORDON
The story was all over the morning news this morning, too. It's got legs.
I hate that TSA bitch they keep showing how it is 'imperative they keep unauthorized liquids and powders off of planes.' Just the way she says it makes me want to punch her in the face.
I'd like to remind everyone that the TSA has never caught a terrorist or a bomb. I'd make a link to their annual budget that they spend not catching terrorist or bombs, but the national budget isn't posted on the internet for some reason.
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:22 am
by TheCatt
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:52 am
by GORDON
http://www.usatoday.com/travel....T_N.htm
At Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport, Napolitano reiterated points she made in a column published Monday in USA TODAY — that the imaging technology does not violate fliers' privacy.
She says it doesn't violate privacy, yet the American people keep saying it does. I still want to punch her in the face.
She's the government so I guess she is right.
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:55 am
by Malcolm
Avoided having to fly for the November holiday this year. I'm fairly certain such Draconian measures don't exist at my local airport yet. But when they do, I'm done.
But the best quote comes from the dude who used to head up security at NWA & now runs a private aviation security consulting firm or something...
He blames the TSA for doing a poor job of explaining the new searches to the public.
"The dilemma they are in is if they explain too much, they risk scaring the public," he added. "I think it's a small liberty to give up for the safety of all."
Do I really need to bring up that Ben Franklin quote to make my counterpoint?
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:58 am
by TheCatt
Details.
[A]nyone who refuses to complete the screening process will be denied access to airport secure areas and could be subject to civil penalties, the administration said, citing a federal appeals court ruling in support of the rule. The ruling, from the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, says that "requiring that a potential passenger be allowed to revoke consent to an ongoing airport security search makes little sense in a post-9/11 world. Such a rule would afford terrorists multiple opportunities to attempt to penetrate airport security by 'electing not to fly' on the cusp of detection until a vulnerable portal is found.
SERIOUSLY? Aren't they the most liberal circuit?
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:59 am
by GORDON
I wonder if you can protest outside the doors of an airport.
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:03 pm
by GORDON
Some travelers say that they are also seeing the amount of time spent in security lines increase.
Napolitano added, "The American people enjoy waiting in the longer lines. It is an added bonus of this non-invasive security process."
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:10 pm
by TheCatt
GORDON wrote:Some travelers say that they are also seeing the amount of time spent in security lines increase.
Napolitano added, "The American people enjoy waiting in the longer lines. It is an added bonus of this non-invasive security process."
"Some travelers are lonely, or lacking in companionship, so we're grateful to let them feel the caress of another living human being. Honestly, I don't know why they don't tip us, too."
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:40 pm
by Malcolm
TheCatt wrote:...requiring that a potential passenger be allowed to revoke consent to an ongoing airport security search makes little sense in a post-9/11 world.
The war on chemistry continues. Can we convince some low-level congressman to sneak hazardous substances into the next session so all of them have to submit to anal cavity searches every time they walk in the building?
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:24 pm
by TheCatt
I bet she flies 2-3 times a week now that she finally got her way. It's the only way she can get a guy to touch her.
Gizmodo commenter.
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:47 pm
by TPRJones
http://wewontfly.com/opt-out-day/
November 24th - the busiest flying day of the year - has been chosen as opt out day. If everyone does it, it will be quite a delicious mess.
If it does go down that way, any bets on how long before the folks behind this idea are investigated by the FBI?
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:50 pm
by Malcolm
TPRJones wrote:If it does go down that way, any bets on how long before the folks behind this idea are investigated by the FBI?
That would greatly encourage me not to fly altogether, regardless of the security procedures at my local airport.
They may as well up the ante and block runways.
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:52 pm
by TheCatt
If they want to hand-screen me, I can at least request an opposite sex screener, right?
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:55 pm
by TPRJones
Claim to be gay, and yes, you can have a woman feel you up.
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:01 pm
by TheCatt
TPRJones wrote:Claim to be gay, and yes, you can have a woman feel you up.
"Is that your wife behind you?"
"Uh, it's a loveless marriage."
"Um, and your kids?"
"They were left at our doorstep, what else are we supposed to do?"
but wiat, seriously? Cuz dude's don't touch me.
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:12 pm
by GORDON
Argument for it I keep reading over and over is "Well you let your doctor touch you, this is just like that because it is their job."
What a stupid fucking argument.
If the TSA has an MD on hand at the security checkpoint, he/she can screen me.
But not the bitch doctor who gave me my last prostate exam. She was brutal.