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Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 2:33 pm
by TheCatt
"We’ll be invoking the Defense Production Act, just in case we need it," Trump said. "In other words -- I think you will know what it is -- and it can do a lot of good things if we need it, and we will have it all completed, signing it in just a little while, right after I'm finished with this conference. I'll be signing it,"
He doesn't know what he's doing, right?
"We are sending, upon request, the two hospital ships. They are being prepared right now. They are massive ships. They’re the big white ships with the red cross on the sides. One is called the Mercy and the other is called the Comfort. And they are in tip-top shape,"
I expect stuff like this from a 7 year old.
China owes everyone trillions.
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Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 2:37 pm
by Cakedaddy
"The captain's name is Captain Roger. He's a nice man. He let me steer the ship!"
The First Trump term.
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:28 pm
by Leisher
TheCatt wrote: I expect stuff like this from a 7 year old.
He makes George W. Bush look like Shakespeare.
The First Trump term.
Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:40 am
by TheCatt
Listening to Trump speak on this stuff is just.. saddening.
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Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:17 pm
by Troy
The First Trump term.
Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:24 pm
by GORDON
Someone HAD to feed him that. No way he made it up himself.
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Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:31 pm
by Leisher
I've seen the Twitters have tons of random posts about various drugs treating cornoavirus. No idea if any were legit. I'm guessing that's where he got it.
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Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:38 pm
by TheCatt
Leisher wrote: I've seen the Twitters have tons of random posts about various drugs treating cornoavirus. No idea if any were legit. I'm guessing that's where he got it.
So the idea of using that specific drug is definitely valid. The FDA just hasn't cleared it, specifically. But the FDA already allows some level of off-label usage, I'm not sure the guidelines behind that. So he technically fucked up, but of all his fuck-ups from today's presser, that was not the biggest by far.
The First Trump term.
Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:24 pm
by TheCatt
The exchange, which occurred at the White House's daily coronavirus task force briefing, began when NBC News reporter Peter Alexander asked Trump whether he was giving Americans "false hope" by touting unproven coronavirus drugs.
Toward the end of the exchange, Alexander cited the latest pandemic statistics showing thousands of Americans are now infected and millions are scared.
Alexander asked, "What do you say to Americans who are scared?"
Trump, shaking his head, ripped into Alexander in response.
"I say that you are a terrible reporter," Trump replied. "That's what I say."
The President proceeded to launch into an extended rant against Alexander, saying he asked a "nasty question" and assailing NBC and its parent company, Comcast.
"You're doing sensationalism," Trump charged. "And the same with NBC and Comcast. I don't call it Comcast. I call it 'Con-Cast.'"
"Let me just tell you something," Trump added. "That's really bad reporting. And you ought to get back to reporting instead of sensationalism."
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At Thursday's coronavirus press briefing, Trump smeared The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, and The Washington Post.
"They're very dishonest," Trump claimed.
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Speaking at the White House's daily coronavirus briefing, Trump praised a right-wing conspiracy outlet which produces propaganda on his behalf,
The First Trump term.
Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:53 pm
by GORDON
It's very important to not give people hope.
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Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2020 3:03 pm
by TheCatt
GORDON wrote: It's very important to not give people hope.
Is that better than facts?
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Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:00 pm
by GORDON
TheCatt wrote: GORDON wrote: It's very important to not give people hope.
Is that better than facts?
Not really. If the facts say there's no hope, and there's nothing you can do, then all you're doing is causing despair.
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Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:04 pm
by GORDON
On reddit and other places, there's a good 20% of extreme Doom Sayers, linking sketchy site that prove we're all going to die in horrible ways, and life as we know it is over. You can sort of see the effect it has on the conversation, a killing of the spirit.
I think these people need to be silenced, for the greater good. It's not helping. If people decide it's all over, they'll behave as such and prepare for the end. If they believe that one way or another life's going to go on for a good long time, they'll behave as such and ride it out.
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Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:16 pm
by TheCatt
Theres definitely hope, but Trump is just lying. That's false hope.
Anyone using the 3% death rathe is exaggerating, based on what we know. Something like 1% seems reasonable, but has some plusminus based on population health, etc.
I buy the massive # of infected if we do nothing. The point is to slow things down enough to let science win.
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Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:22 pm
by GORDON
"The national guard will be walking the streets within 2 weeks, stopping everyone who is travelling, and shooting you on sight if you don't have a good reason to be out."
"We're going to be having 10k deaths a day within 2 weeks, and there will be massive piles of burning bodies in all the cities."
"The banks will all fail when no one pays their loans, and money will become useless, so you'd better have gold or bullets because it's all coming to a head, soon."
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Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:09 pm
by Cakedaddy
I don't think any of that justifies lying.
"Nothing to worry about. It's just the flu. Go about your daily lives as normal. We've got this under control." is I think more dangerous than your quotes as it is actively putting people at risk, if not in danger right now. How many people are now sick, and how many will die because they believed the lies? Why would that be acceptable?
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Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:15 pm
by GORDON
People aren't isolating. Stores are open, people are waiting in line to get in, people are flying. Everybody's still going to take a turn, and the vast majority will come out on the other side just fine. The doom and gloom predictions will do nothing but hurt morale. Maybe someone saying, "You know, it's not really all that bad" would do more good than harm.
I'm still not sure if tanking the economy was worth it, but time will tell.
I'd like to be able to buy a gallon of milk again at some point, I know that much, but apparently people are scared and hoarding it around here.
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Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:24 pm
by TheCatt
GORDON wrote: "The national guard will be walking the streets within 2 weeks, stopping everyone who is travelling, and shooting you on sight if you don't have a good reason to be out."
"We're going to be having 10k deaths a day within 2 weeks, and there will be massive piles of burning bodies in all the cities."
"The banks will all fail when no one pays their loans, and money will become useless, so you'd better have gold or bullets because it's all coming to a head, soon."
I don't remember anyone in an official capacity saying any of those things.
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Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:25 pm
by TheCatt
CT + IL staying home.
People here are pretty much staying home. Definitely way, way, way less traffic when I go out to the store.
Does gasoline in your car go bad eventually?
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Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:25 pm
by GORDON
I know. I listed those things on what the mood is on other forums, doom and gloom, and misinformation. How it isn't helpful. How it probably hurts.