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Malcolm wrote:Guess who Indy waived.
This is almost painful to watch.
Raiders.
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Browns are batshit insane.
NFL Media's Charley Casserly reported on Monday's edition of NFL AM that the Cleveland Browns offered a first-round draft pick for Bradford.
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Casserly's source did not specify whether the Browns' offer was made to the Rams, Eagles or both teams.
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Malcolm wrote:Browns are batshit insane.
NFL Media's Charley Casserly reported on Monday's edition of NFL AM that the Cleveland Browns offered a first-round draft pick for Bradford.
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Casserly's source did not specify whether the Browns' offer was made to the Rams, Eagles or both teams.
How did I miss this news?

I can't believe Bradford is so coveted. I'll admit, he's not your typical bust, but all those injuries have to degrade his value don't they?
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I take Cam for granted. And I have posters of the guy on my cubicle wall at work. Still take him for granted.
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Troy wrote:I take Cam for granted. And I have posters of the guy on my cubicle wall at work. Still take him for granted.
Just a matter of time until both Wilson and Cam slow down.
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Wow. NFL shill spouts off.
Dr. Joseph Maroon — a neurosurgeon and NFL medical consultant — said that football has “never been safer” and while admitting that there’s room for improvement, he said “it’s much more dangerous riding a bike or a skateboard than playing youth football.”

Yeah. I see a lot of 50-60 year old cyclists that seem like they're mentally 7 or 8. When Tony Hawk reaches that age, I'm sure he'll be like this.
In a November 6, 2010, interview, McMahon admitted to having memory problems due to injuries suffered on the football field. McMahon was quoted as saying, 'There are a lot of times when I walk into a room and forget why I walked in there.'




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I think he has a point.

All he's saying is that it's irresponsible to just say "football did this" when the same injury/illness is seen elsewhere.

LOTS of people have played football and the vast majority never show signs of CTE. Ditto for smoking, drinking, drugs, exposure to radiation, the flu, the common cold, heat exposure, cold exposure, AIDS, etc.

Some people might be more vulnerable than others to CTE and that's his point. More work needs to be done to get to the bottom of why certain people get it and others don't.

CLEARLY football is a factor, but if it was the only factor everyone would get it. Ronnie Lott and Mel Blount used to deliver the hard hits in the NFL during a time when they led with their helmets, yet they're both fine.

Although, I think he's only right about the game being safer than ever. In terms of rules and equipment, yes. In terms of speed and size of the players, no.
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Some people might be more vulnerable than others to CTE and that's his point. More work needs to be done to get to the bottom of why certain people get it and others don't.

That's a huge unknown.
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Some people might be more vulnerable than others to CTE and that's his point. More work needs to be done to get to the bottom of why certain people get it and others don't.
That's a huge unknown.
But that's the point.

It's the same thing as Climate Change.

Yes, it's happening, but blaming it solely on human activity and ignoring everything else is irresponsible.

Again, head trauma is clearly an issue, but why does it seem like some people are more vulnerable than others? If they can find out why, those folks might be able to be identified.
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Yes, it's happening, but blaming it solely on human activity and ignoring everything else is irresponsible.

Same reason it take several jolts to kill some dudes in the electric chair and only one for others. But in general, I'm pretty sure exposing myself to that amperage is not healthy. Smashing into tall, muscular dudes that can run 40s in four and a half seconds generates a lot of force. All it takes is a bit more on one part of your skull that's kind of weak. Additionally, skateboarders and cyclists try NOT to run into shit. That's the point of the sport and hobby. Football makes collisions a fundamental part of the game.




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Same reason it take several jolts to kill some dudes in the electric chair and only one for others. But in general, I'm pretty sure exposing myself to that amperage is not healthy. Smashing into tall, muscular dudes that can run 40s in four and a half seconds generates a lot of force. All it takes is a bit more on one part of your skull that's kind of weak.


Well I'm glad you've solved this for medical science. Please let them know your conclusions.

But seriously, duh, however there's no real evidence that there isn't some other factor that plays into this and that can't be ignored. The percentage of people affected to the extreme that's being hyped is low.

Additionally, skateboarders and cyclists try NOT to run into shit. That's the point of the sport and hobby. Football makes collisions a fundamental part of the game.


Bullshit. You want to do tricks, you're going to fall. You're going to get hurt. Nobody just grabs a skateboard and never falls off. Pain is a part of their game too. Nobody plays football to get brain damage. Nobody boxes to die (see the boxing thread). Nobody fights in the UFC to lose their life or be paralyzed. Nobody takes steroids with the intention of having bad side effects later in life.
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Well I'm glad you've solved this for medical science. Please let them know your conclusions.
Angular accelerations of 4600, 5900, or 7900 radian/s2 are estimated to have 25, 50, or 80% risk of MTBI respectively

They're already working on that shit, and they have numbers. Problem is your concussion is related to how your body's twisting and taking trauma at the moment. Every hit or series of hits is different.

In addition to immediate health effects, some injuries sustained during a player's career can have effects that extend to their post-career life. A cohort mortality study by researchers at the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH) examined 3,349 NFL players who played at least five full seasons from 1959 to 1988. The findings from this study suggest that, in comparison to the typical American male, NFL players live longer on average but have around three times the risk of death associated with neurodegenerative disorders. In particular, the risk of death from Alzheimer's disease and Amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS) was roughly four times higher among former players than the average American male. The study also compared mortality risks from speed players (quarterbacks, running backs, fullbacks, wide receivers, tight ends, linebackers, cornerbacks, and safeties) and nonspeed players (offensive and defensive linemen), with findings indicating that a greater number of deaths were attributable to neurodegenerative disorders in speed players than nonspeed players. This may be due to the increased momentum of collisions from speed players.

Again, science is on this shit already. Your skull is made to take some punishment. Some. It is not designed for heavy duty impact like this motherfucker.

You want to do tricks, you're going to fall. You're going to get hurt. Nobody just grabs a skateboard and never falls off. Pain is a part of their game too.

Falling's an unfortunate consequence of fucking up. As you get better and better, you'll fall less and less doing more and more difficult things. In the Olympic snowboarding events, at the highest level of that sport, there's more doing the trick than fucking up. Football is designed such that most plays end with a tackle. You can go out of bounds, get downed by contact, give yourself up, or score, but most of the time, someone has to knock your ass down. Tackles are a result of one-half the dudes on the field doing their job a bit better than the other half.

As for boxing, I've said it time and time again, gloves were the worst thing that ever happened to that sport. You invite nothing but headshots.
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Malcolm wrote:Bernie Pierce guarantees himself a release.
Called it.
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Gore backhandedly bitchslaps Kaep.
"When I knew I wasn't going back to the 49ers, my first option was I wanted to be with a great quarterback," Gore said. "I feel that you have to have a great quarterback to have a chance. Luck is a young quarterback and he does everything. He can throw. He can run. He's physical. He's a leader."


AP not getting cut from Vikes.

Rivers staying with Chargers.

Check the one at the bottom. I missed that. Eddie Royal got $10M?
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Poor Bears.
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Malcolm wrote:
Malcolm wrote:Bernie Pierce guarantees himself a release.

Called it.

Vultured by Jaguars.

Santonio Holmes is baffled why no one wants a washed up wideout past his prime with hands that are about as flexible as anvils.




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Dolphins QB lineup:

1) Matt Moore
2) Tarvaris Jackson
3) Ryan Tannehill

Gee, I wonder why Mike Wallace wanted the fuck out.
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